Mitchell Report

[tkam]

The Mitchell Report is going to be released in about 20 min or so. It's already leaked out that Roger Clemens will be named and it's expected to name anywhere from 50-80 additional players.

[n_maher]

Going to be a hell of an afternoon for sports talk radio that's for sure. I'm headed off now to listen live to my local station (WEEI/Boston)...

[JBLoudG20]

pwn@g3

[deepak]

[JBLoudG20]

Make popcorn an official smiley!

[tkam]

Click here to download the report in PDF format

[JBLoudG20]

Go Toddy! Go Toddy!

[n_maher]

Holy 409 pages batman.

[tkam]

Make popcorn an official smiley!

done and added a few more .

[JBLoudG20]

[tkam]

[tkam]

Someone really needs to hurry up and get through the 409 pg report and just post the names. The names are all anyone gives a shit about anyways.

[deepak]

tkam add this one, it's not too big and sort of fits with the site

Someone really needs to hurry up and get through the 409 pg report and just post the names. The names are all anyone gives a shit about anyways.

If only Foxit had CTRL+F...

[tkam]

So it looks like Eric Gagne is on the list. Maybe he stopped taking them halfway through last season and thats why he sucked for the Red Sox?

[deepak]

So it looks like Eric Gagne is on the list. Maybe he stopped taking them halfway through last season and thats why he sucked for the Red Sox?

Gagne was really a no brainer, IMO.

[tkam]

here's an initial list of some of the players named:

Marvin Benard

Larry Bigbie

Barry Bonds

Kevin Brown

Roger Clemens

Jack Cust

Lenny Dykstra

Eric Gagne

Jason Giambi

Troy Glaus

Jerry Hairston, Jr.

Glenallen Hill

Todd Hundley

David Justice

Chuck Knoblauch

Tim Laker

Paul Lo Duca

Kent Mercker

Hal Morris

Denny Neagle

Andy Pettitte

Brian Roberts

John Rocker

Benito Santiago

David Segui

Gary Sheffield

Mike Stanton

Miguel Tejada

Mo Vaughn

Randy Velarde

Rondell White

Gregg Zaun

[hungrych]

I demand asterisks on all of Chuck Knoblauch's errors!

[tkam]

Full List:

Marvin Benard

Barry Bonds

Bobby Estalella

Jason Giambi

Jeremy Giambi

Benito Santiago

Gary Sheffield

Randy Velarde

Lenny Dykstra

David Segui

Larry Bigbie

Brian Roberts

Jack Cust

Tim Laker

Josias Manzanillo

Todd Hundley

Mark Carreon

Hal Morris

Matt Franco

Rondell White

Roger Clemens

Andy Pettitte

Chuck Knoblauch

Jason Grimsley

Gregg Zaun

David Justice

F.P. Santangelo

Glenallen Hill

Mo Vaughn

Denny Neagle

Ron Villone

Ryan Franklin

Chris Donnels

Todd Williams

Phil Hiatt

Kevin Young

Mike Lansing

Cody McKay

Kent Mercker

Adam Piatt

Miguel Tejada

Jason Christiansen

Mike Stanton

Stephen Randolph

Jerry Hairston, Jr.

Paul Lo Duca

Adam Riggs

Bart Miadich

Fernando Vina

Kevin Brown

Eric Gagn?

Mike Bell

Matt Herges

Gary Bennett, Jr.

Jim Parque

Brendan Donnelly

Chad Allen

Jeff Williams

Howie Clark

Exavier "Nook" Logan

Rick Ankiel

Paul Byrd

Jay Gibbons

Troy Glaus

Jose Guillen

Jerry Hairston Jr.

Gary Matthews, Jr.

Scott Schoeneweis

David Bell

Jose Canseco

Jason Grimsley

Darren Holmes

John Rocker

Ismael Valdez

Matt Williams

Steve Woodard

[JBLoudG20]

Matt Williams

X, what the fuck?

[granodemostasa]

John rocker.... i forgot about that piece of human scum.

[mjg]

i am on this list. see.

[Dusty Chalk]

Yeah, but some of those entries are only there because of second-hand evidence, I.E. hearsay. For example:

"Marc was aggressive the other day, therefore he must be on steroids*."

*Either that, or he's drinking Coca-Cola.

I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want an asterisk next to their name -- it's like getting a gold star.

EdipisReks -- can I get an asterisk next to my name?

[mjg]

true, yet this entire report is designed for public consumption and bullshit anyway. What difference does it make that lo duca, for instance did some juice on LA when juice wasn't banned yet? How about lenny dykstra? I mean wtf... If your trying to invalidate someones reputaiton, based on what you descided morally about something now rather then how it was back then, isn't that hypocritical?

Trainers were looking to get edge, and where it may of helped, it did... It wasnt a magical elixer (someone used it along those lines i think) that makes u good. It's talent plain and simple that is what makes you what you are. I hate arod, but look at him. Any signs of juice? the man can hit. Bonds was significant before he did steroids. Yet I still hate the man and his huge stupid looking head, lady voice, and scumbagness all together. Does it make me hate him more that he did steroids? I dunno, he is what he is. If anything, steroids ruined his game in the long run. The guy is pretty useless.

My real point is, the mitchell report seeks to show the world there's steroids use in baseball, and this is some horrible corruption? It's only what you make of it, if your going to cry over the statistics that are destroyed, well, dont u think they woulda used back then if they knew any better? The institution of sports uses technology to improve the game, make it more competitive... athletes do whatever they can get away with. such is life. Athletes are entertainers, sports is a buisness. This isn't something to sigh about really, it's just part of the evolution of it all.

hope u guys enjoyed my rant. please do argue with me .

[Dusty Chalk]

Marc -- I have to admit to being of two minds on the subject. On the one hand, yeah, I fully anticipate a day when "Running Man" is going to be a reality -- at which point, the use of steroids is going to seem like a minor infraction compared with other rule-breaking. On the other -- what about Babe Ruth? Shouldn't he get kudos for doing what he did without the use of steroids?

I fully embrace the asterisk.

no.

Good thing, too.

[Dusty Chalk]

are you juicing, Peter?