DigiPete Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 Paradigm Ref 100 v.4 HD 800 AKG 701 mogami recable
kelvinz Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 That would be completely amp dependent. With a great amp, the 650 is great, otherwise, it's ok True however I do have a B22 which to my ears is one of the best amps overall. Is Penger's "Headroom Ultra Desktop Amp/DAC" that much better?
grawk Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 couldn't tell you, I don't have either, or hd650s
kelvinz Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 couldn't tell you, I don't have either, or hd650s Ha looking forward to getting my HF2 after I saw your brief comparo between them at the AT's
Fungi Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 True however I do have a B22 which to my ears is one of the best amps overall. Is Penger's "Headroom Ultra Desktop Amp/DAC" that much better? I didn't like the HD650 out of Frank Cooter's massive amp. Still very dark IMO.
grawk Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 Paradigm Ref 100 v.4 wearing those is gonna cause neck strain
DigiPete Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 wearing those is gonna cause neck strain but no ear strain
kelvinz Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 I didn't like the HD650 out of Frank Cooter's massive amp. Still very dark IMO. I've never been a huge fan of the 650's however I did hear a local member's on a vinyl rig with a headphone amp whose make eludes me now, but it sounded completely different than my pair and in most aspects better.
VPI Posted June 24, 2009 Report Posted June 24, 2009 Sony R10 Balanced Stax Omega II mk 1 Senn HD-800 Balanced Ultimate Ears UE-11 Pro Grado HP-2 Grado HF-2 Balanced Senn HD-600 Balanced AKG K-340 Balanced Grado SR-60 Yuin OK3 (I assume as I have not taken them out of the box yet)
Smeggy Posted June 24, 2009 Report Posted June 24, 2009 x2 i need to get all my crap working so I can do proper ranking checks again.
swt61 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 True however I do have a B22 which to my ears is one of the best amps overall. Is Penger's "Headroom Ultra Desktop Amp/DAC" that much better? I think when you reach this level of amplification it's more about different flavors than better or worse. It's more about picking the amp that best fits your overall system, or your taste. At this level I think most amps are going to be pretty resolving and accurate. The β22 is very neutral, which for me works very well.
boomana Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Sony R10 Balanced Stax Omega II mk 1 Senn HD-800 Balanced Ultimate Ears UE-11 Pro Grado HP-2 Grado HF-2 Balanced Senn HD-600 Balanced AKG K-340 Balanced Grado SR-60 Yuin OK3 (I assume as I have not taken them out of the box yet) Other than the balanced part and the HP2s, we have almost the exact same headphones. I did sell my K340s and my old boss stole my SR60s awhile back. My temp list: Sony R10 Stax O2 MK1 (though I'm working from memory. Justin, get busy with that amp). Senn HD800 (not sure I'm keeping) UE-11 Pro Senn HD600 Grado HF2 ATH- ESW10 Grado 225s (n_maher special edition) Yuin PK1 Senn PX100
Asr Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 I don't have my final headphones yet but will list anyway since I'm almost there. Order will likely change at some point too, but as of now: - Audio-Technica AD2000 - Sony Qualia 010 - Stax SR-X MKIII - Stax OII MKI - AKG K701 - Sennheiser HD800 (if I had to rank it) - Audio-Technica ES7 - Klipsch X10
VPI Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Other than the balanced part and the HP2s, we have almost the exact same headphones. I did sell my K340s and my old boss stole my SR60s awhile back. My temp list: Sony R10 Stax O2 MK1 (though I'm working from memory. Justin, get busy with that amp). Senn HD800 (not sure I'm keeping) UE-11 Pro Senn HD600 Grado HF2 ATH- ESW10 Grado 225s (n_maher special edition) Yuin PK1 Senn PX100 Great Minds...
Cankin Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 I don't have my final headphones yet but will list anyway since I'm almost there. Order will likely change at some point too, but as of now: - Audio-Technica AD2000 - Sony Qualia 010 - Stax SR-X MKIII - Stax OII MKI - AKG K701 - Sennheiser HD800 (if I had to rank it) - Audio-Technica ES7 - Klipsch X10 although I like K701 myself, but I never thought it would be > than HD800
penger Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 what about your 650's do you like better over the ESW10JPN? I find myself liking my ESW9A's more than my 650's At the time, I found the HD650's more comfortable than the ESW10's. I now have an M^3 instead of the Headroom amp, and the gain 11 (I think) on an amp with a stepped attenuator makes it hard to really get the volume I want out of the ESW10's. Unamped, the 10's clearly beat the 650's but on the M^3, I find I can listen longer using 650's which means to me, more enjoyment. Hope that helps?
swt61 Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 Wow, the X10 is that bad? Uhm, I wouldn't jump to that conclusion just from ASR's judgement. I like them quite well myself.
kelvinz Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 At the time, I found the HD650's more comfortable than the ESW10's. I now have an M^3 instead of the Headroom amp, and the gain 11 (I think) on an amp with a stepped attenuator makes it hard to really get the volume I want out of the ESW10's. Unamped, the 10's clearly beat the 650's but on the M^3, I find I can listen longer using 650's which means to me, more enjoyment. Hope that helps? 100% agree I love the sound of the esw9a but I can't wear them for more than an hour before they start hurting my ears
boomana Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 thought you decided you liked them? I do like them quite a bit. I liked them enough at CanJam to give them a serious try, but the deal is that I have too many headphones. I'm already going to sell the 600s, and maybe the esw10s. My goal was always to have One killer estat rig: O2 One killer dynamic rig: R10 One or two fun phones: the recently acquired HF2s and 225 cover that, and they're keepers One killer portable: JH13 One gym phone: UE11 Though it feels really strange to kick out such a wonderful headphone, it's the only one I can see going. I think I secretly wished they could replace my R10s, and I could convince myself to sell them, but they don't. There's just no room for HD800s, and at $1400, I'd rather buy music or fund some adventure someplace. I'm going to give it one more week.
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