World War 3 Thread

[Craig Sawyers]

I always wondered why Russia would sabotage their own pipelines, particularly when the sale of gas  to Europe (particularly Germany) was funding the war in Ukraine. A third party always looked more likely.

[JoaMat]

Joint venture. CIA and Poland.

[naamanf]

Not saying it’s not possible, but there is a lot he is getting wrong about Panama City and SF units. Super secret yet all these people talk? 🤷‍♂️

[TMoney]

I call bullshit as well until a more reputable source corroborates. 

[Knuckledragger]

Top Russian Military Official Dead After Fall From 16th Floor.

Gravity in Russia is a real MFer.

[dsavitsk]

How the War in Ukraine Ends
An eminent historian envisions a settlement among Russia, Ukraine, and the West.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-new-yorker-interview/how-the-war-in-ukraine-ends

[Craig Sawyers]

Yes, but he also envisions chemical and biological clandestine attacks on the West. IOW Europe. He's already done that in Salisbury a couple of years ago with Novichok nerve agents. And poisoned Litvinenko on London with radioactive Polonium, resulting in Litvinenko being buried in a lead coffin.

That is the clear and present danger.

[blessingx]

Congrats Finland 

[naamanf]

Wonder what the NATO designation will

be for sauna. 

[Grahame]

17 minutes ago, naamanf said:

Wonder what the NATO designation will

be for sauna. 

Sierra
Alpha
Uniform
November
Alpha

"NATO recently installed a sauna in its headquarters. Coincidence? Maybe."

https://www.politico.eu/article/finland-sauna-culture-diplomacy-brussels/

but which  level?

"I remember visiting the Finnish embassy and them telling us about how they had three in their two buildings, a diplomatic sauna, a general sauna, and a sauna for the higher ups. You could definitely tell they were a little bit obsessed with it."

[Craig Sawyers]

Back in the day, I went on business to Israel for a week one January. It was anomalously warm, short sleeve shirt warm.

I then travelled to Finland with a change of planes at Frankfurt, where it was snowing. Landed at Helsinki and it was -40C (the only temperature that it the same in C and F). I saw locals at the airport taking fearsome looking thermal clothing out of lockers and though Oho I'm in trouble here. It is nose freezing up inside when you breath cold. My clothing was inadequate for the ridiculously cold temperature.

Eventually got to the hotel in a taxi with thick ice inside the windows, and our local marketer took me to the sauna there.

So in a single day, I'd gone from +22C to -40C then to +100C.

[blessingx]

The Russians Took Their Children. These Mothers Went and Got Them Back. 
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/08/todayspaper/ukrainian-children-mothers-russia.html 

[blessingx]

Not the dream team 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/06/23/world/russia-ukraine-news?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare 

[robm321]

 

 

[Craig Sawyers]

On 6/24/2023 at 3:34 AM, blessingx said:

Not the dream team 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/06/23/world/russia-ukraine-news?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare 

Who noticed that the kid on the left has a poorly thumb? I reckon it was misusing his weapon and getting his thumb trapped by the recoil, or burnt on a hot bit. Not a good advert indeed.

[Augsburger]

Are we possibly missing something here?  Wagner and the Russian army for the moment seems to have all of a sudden made nice nice regarding the supposed "coup". Wagner/Prigozhin has moved 25K+ men into southern Belarus where coincidently there have been 33K+ Russian soldiers recently redeployed there as well. Both groups seem to be located in southern Belarus which happens to be north of Kyiv Ukraine's capital.  Timely move for the Russians given Ukraine's counter offensive in the south of Ukraine where resources are concentrated. 

Edited June 26, 2023 by Augsburger

[guzziguy]

Greg, I think that you mean Belarus rather than Bulgaria. 

It's a good thing that there are no Russian troops in Bulgaria.  Bulgaria is a NATO country and we would be at war.

Edited June 26, 2023 by guzziguy

[Augsburger]

Belarus shmelarus...I blame Brent and wine for this.

[Pars]

So how long before another Russian mysteriously falls from a balcony? Or is that too subtle in this instance?

Edited June 26, 2023 by Pars

[skullguise]

On 6/25/2023 at 11:15 PM, Augsburger said:

Are we possibly missing something here?  Wagner and the Russian army for the moment seems to have all of a sudden made nice nice regarding the supposed "coup". Wagner/Prigozhin has moved 25K+ men into southern Belarus where coincidently there have been 33K+ Russian soldiers recently redeployed there as well. Both groups seem to be located in southern Belarus which happens to be north of Kyiv Ukraine's capital.  Timely move for the Russians given Ukraine's counter offensive in the south of Ukraine where resources are concentrated. 

This does still potentially scare me.  According to latest reports, negotiations have resulted in Wagner/Prigozhin in "exile" in Belarus in exchange for not being prosecuted.  The news is calling it a blow against Putin, but if somehow they reconcile, it indeed does leave a large force there for relatively quick deployment....

[Augsburger]

Too easy, too quick makes me suspicious. In an environment of misinformation and subterfuge with Russia consistently at the source, I question everything is at it seems. 

[Knuckledragger]

Ukrainian drone destroys Russian supersonic bomber.

[Fitz]

And Russian propagandists are already literally painting it as terrorist attack. Apparently attacking military targets is now "terrorism"

[skullguise]

Terrorism 😖....at least it wasn't attacking places of worship....

[Craig Sawyers]

Or theatres, or restaurants.