aardvark baguette Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Unless you really like headphones the HP-2 and L3000 are over valued right now. Considering how easily you can sell any one of them, all of them are worth trying out. Yeah. I will probably audition some someday. Though alot of them come balanced, which I cant use. But there was a long stretch where K1000s seldom popped up, now it seems we dont go one week without a pair available. Cyclical I guess.
cclragnarok Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 You guys are so harsh. The D2000 and D5000 are certainly not the best headphones ever made, but they sound pretty nice and balanced to me. Their combination of good sound, comfort, relative lack of leakage, and not-so-ridiculous looks is very hard to beat IMO. I think they are great headphones for office rigs. My office rig: Emu 0404 USB -> SFT M^3 -> D2000
aardvark baguette Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Well they do keep more sound in than HD650s, I'll grant you that. But the only way I can listen to them is if I completely stop listening to my HD650s, and slowly get accustomed to the sound. They're colored, plain and simple. I think they may be more colored than the PX100s. Its not that bad if you dont have other phones to compare to though.
cclragnarok Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 I don't think they are that colored. Not as colored as Audio Technicas, that's for sure. I also don't think the HD650 is all that neutral (though I do like the way they sound).
aardvark baguette Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 No, the HD650s definitely aren't neutral either, I just think they are more neutral than the Denons. The Denons have more midrange, but its too much. To me, its one phone that plays deep and clearly, vs another that plays fairly deep and very very punchy in the mids. I'd rather have the Senns. But ymmv.
boomana Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Posted May 12, 2008 I don't even bother with neutral as a word that means much anymore. There are things that are certainly over-colored, but other than that, I like what I like and that's good enough for me. I think the Denons would probably make a good office rig. Good closed headphones, in general, are difficult to find and system match, at least in my experience, limited as it is.
postjack Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 I don't even bother with neutral as a word that means much anymore. To me there is a neutral, and it exists only in the HP1000. as for the D5000, I listened to it out of a Maxxed Headroom Desktop and just went apeshit over it. The next day out of Drew's Cary thing I wasn't as impressed. So it could've been the amp or it could've been me.
cclragnarok Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 No, the HD650s definitely aren't neutral either, I just think they are more neutral than the Denons. The Denons have more midrange, but its too much. To me, its one phone that plays deep and clearly, vs another that plays fairly deep and very very punchy in the mids. I'd rather have the Senns. But ymmv. I thought the common complaint against the Denons is that they don't have enough mids. I see what you are saying though. The Denons do have a punchy sound that people may or may not like. Driven with the right amps, I agree that the HD650 does offer better sound overall. Unfortunately, they are not as comfortable to me, and they leak way too much for office use. I don't even bother with neutral as a word that means much anymore. There are things that are certainly over-colored, but other than that, I like what I like and that's good enough for me. I think the Denons would probably make a good office rig. Good closed headphones, in general, are difficult to find and system match, at least in my experience, limited as it is. I agree with everything you said here. as for the D5000, I listened to it out of a Maxxed Headroom Desktop and just went apeshit over it. The next day out of Drew's Cary thing I wasn't as impressed. So it could've been the amp or it could've been me. I am using OPA627s in my M^3, and I think the synergy is pretty decent. If I remember correctly, the Maxxed Headroom Desktop also uses OPA627s.
Dusty Chalk Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 You know, sometimes we have to try headphones for ourselves to hear what's wrong with them. I disagree with pretty much everyone about the sound of the GS1000's I've heard, even people who agree with me about disliking them.
krrm Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Does anyone think there is one headphone that suits all styles of music? Ask spritzer
dc Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Ask spritzer I think it started with an S... Sony maybe?
spritzer Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 I think it started with an S... Sony maybe? Nope, Koss UR18. It's equally bad at everything.
Duggeh Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 I think it started with an S... Sony maybe? Sanyo obviously.
Guest username Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Am I reading that right? 8 ohm impedance! They use small speakers- not your typical headphone driver.
Duggeh Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Small speakers work fine if you also use another smaller driver, K340 stylie.
Dusty Chalk Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Does anyone think there is one headphone that suits all styles of music? Yeah, there's a whole "team" of us who don't believe in application-specific headphones at all. Now, matching headphones to amps and cables and sources and so on, that's something else entirely, but yeah, I believe that all music should sound good on my headphones, and they usually do.
Dominatrice Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 ok any of the florida crew have a pair of 2000s ? Hoping someone didnt sell them off, i want a chance to listen to them... Let me know if one of you still have it, like Vick or Ty , matt, gene....
fordgtlover Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 Yeah, there's a whole "team" of us who don't believe in application-specific headphones at all. Now, matching headphones to amps and cables and sources and so on, that's something else entirely, but yeah, I believe that all music should sound good on my headphones, and they usually do. Maybe I need to keep looking for the can that satisfies all of my tastes. The K701 powered by the Bijou is certainly getting close BTW, I am starting to rethink my views on the D2000. After listening to the K701/ Bijou for the last week, I went back to my D2000/M
Dusty Chalk Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 Maybe I need to keep looking for the can that satisfies all of my tastes. The K701 powered by the Bijou is certainly getting close L3000.
thrice Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 L3000. or W3000 I've been rockin' these at work lately, very nice...I think I'm finally starting to "get" these headphones. I know I've said that before, but I'm now to the point where parting with these would be difficult.
n_maher Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 but I'm now to the point where parting with these would be difficult. So we should expect them when, the next 24 or 48hrs?
thrice Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 So we should expect them when, the next 24 or 48hrs? No, I'm done selling gear for now....well, one more thing may go, but we'll see about it....not sure I want to/need to sell it.
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