I finally heard the ER4S but ...

[jinp6301]

the design for it is horrible! My ears are still in pain from them pushing on the insides of my ears.

Excluding that, its probably the best IEM that I've heard (heard things that I didnt even hear with my 225s) even though it has for the weird sibilance and the fatiguing treble (especially with like rock songs ex. ted leo's stuff)

So the question is, what sounds like a ER4P/S with a better design that wont destroy my ears? the im716?

[KenW]

Your answer lies with the Westone Comply tips. Those and the new tips from Shure are by far the most comfortable tips I've tried. I use the Comply tips onthe im716 with super results.

[jinp6301]

yea i'm using the shure olive tips (or whatever theyre called) right now but its not the actual tips that are bothering me

its this part

that the er4s is pushing on

EDIT: those arent my ears

[jinp6301]

the thing is that its only on certain songs that its EXTREMELY sibilant (ex. ted leo and the pharmacists - me and mia)

btw, its straight out of a iriver ihp140 so maybe thats why? because when its amped, the sibilance goes away and its pretty fucking sweet.

slightly off topic but for portable use I should get the er4p since P is for portable right?

[KenW]

I found the 4p to be very detailed but no so fatiguing. A little shy on bass but still a heckuva IEM for the money. Just lost faith in the build quality when the tubes cracked after I'd babied those things. Once I lost the faith, that was it for me. Never had issues with sibilance. Are you getting a good seal? As for amping, that did help the sonics, but it didn't take long for me to tire of the portable amp deal. Just too much trouble for my tastes. You might be someone who simply doesn't dig the detail scene. Maybe you like a smoother/warmer sound? The Shures perhaps? E500's can be found pretty easily on the FS forums of late.

[jinp6301]

no, i had an extended loan of the e500s from laxx a while back. really hated them, they sounded freaking great but the lack of highs really killed it for me, even though it had its moments with some piano pieces and some rock songs

I really like the er4s even with its shortcomings. Coming from the grado camp, the sound sig is pretty much what I wanted from an IEM. and I really cant carry a portable amp either (even though the XP amp is pretty sweet), the iriver is already too big as it is. I was talking about amping with a Little Dot II+ in my previous comment.

ah well, I'll just get the er4p or the im716 since its cheaper?

[KenW]

I got tired of the dongle on the im716 and since the family went shopping today, I had some peace and quiet so I did the podectomy described on the other site. Tried several resistors and finally settled on the 47 ohm. Really nice result and a more balanced presentation. If you've got any skill at all with a soldering iron, it's an easy thing to do so and gives you a chance to experiment and tailor the sound to your liking. They're pretty cheap compared to the ety's and they seem to be a bit more sturdy/durable. For the $$, that's what I did.

[jinp6301]

ok almost sure to get the im716 then

btw, hows the sound compared to the er4p/s? is it similar enough?

[postjack]

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sorry i passed out on my keyboard reading this boring ass thread about iems.

[jinp6301]

you hurt my feelings

now I can flue you for emotional damage right?

EDIT: wtf, I cant spell snue?

[jinp6301]

thank you admins

bless you forever!!! :

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[postjack]

you hurt my feelings

now I can flue you for emotional damage right?

EDIT: wtf, I cant spell snue?

take no offense, I'm just being cranky.

[jinp6301]

take no offense, I'm just being cranky.

I was just kidding as well

[deepak]

I was just kidding as well

man I wonder how EdipisReks will change this one

Maybe with a trose custom tit

[jinp6301]

Maybe with a asshat extraordinaire custom tit

well I do like to wear my asses like a hat

[aerius]

take no offense, I'm just being cranky.

PMS?

[jinp6301]

ok I finally got the im716. The pod is so effing annoying I better do a poderectomy (sp?) ASAP. The sound is definitely less detailed then the er4s but its similar. Definitely doesnt have the same extension in both ends like the etys. Its definitely a keeper for $60 shipped tho.

Only problem, the tube for the tips is slightly bigger then the ety tube so getting the shure olive foamies was the biggest pain in the ass ever

[postjack]

Now I feel like an ass for crapping in jinp's thread, because I'm thinking about picking up a pair of ER-4Ps. For listening to out of a portable source (currently 1g shuffle) when I'm at the coffee shop reading. The price point and sound signature are attractive. Primarily I'd be listening to jazz/classical, maybe some electronic instrumental (I have a hard time reading when listening to anything with vocals).

[jinp6301]

werd, the er4p would be perfect. They work so well with violins!

[grawk]

There's no reason to buy an er4s anymore, since you can get the P->S cable and have the best of both worlds

[postjack]

There's no reason to buy an er4s anymore, since you can get the P->S cable and have the best of both worlds

yeah, I figured just buy an er4s tranny prostitute, and if I want to try the amp thing get a p>s cable later.

editted per request

[grawk]

werd, the er4p would be perfect. They work so well with violins!

I've been looking for half an hour, but can't find a place to plug in the er4ps to my daughter's violin.

[postjack]

I've been looking for half an hour, but can't find a place to plug in the er4ps to my daughter's violin.

you have to drill a hole in the bottom there.

[jinp6301]

I've been looking for half an hour, but can't find a place to plug in the er4ps to my daughter's violin.

you have those old violins. It sounds like crap. Get it iViolin-modded with blackgates and v caps!