JimL Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Just looked, actually both the Utopia and LCD-4 are on the Wall of Fame, which is what Tyll said he was going to do on his blog of June 9, "I will be leaving the Utopia on the WoF, and will add the LCD-4 to the Wall of Fame, though reservedly." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 My mistake. What I find pretty impressive about the Utopia is its ability to sound wonderful out of portable DAP. I don't think the LCD-4 or the HD800 can do that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitigir Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 16 minutes ago, purk said: My mistake. What I find pretty impressive about the Utopia is its ability to sound wonderful out of portable DAP. I don't think the LCD-4 or the HD800 can do that. That in itself is an outstanding feature to have 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdipisReks1 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 6 hours ago, purk said: My mistake. What I find pretty impressive about the Utopia is its ability to sound wonderful out of portable DAP. I don't think the LCD-4 or the HD800 can do that. I saw a guy riding a bike while wearing a pair of HD-650, the other day. I wonder what he was driving them with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robm321 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 His legs? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdipisReks1 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, robm321 said: His legs? That seems like a good way to only hear music when you aren't going down hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wink Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Once you're over 60, it's all downhill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwmclean Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 I thought the downhill start at 40? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopstretch Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Can confirm. Am 47. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwmclean Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Hopstretch said: Can confirm. Am 47. Isn't 47 the new 37... which pushes out your downhill by 3 whole years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 I didn't start really feeling my age 'til around 50. I credit not having kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimL Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 When you're going downhill, you pick up speed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wink Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 At 60 the drop-off is severe. You realise that gravity is not just a nuisance, but a force to be reckoned with. Yep, the only jumping you can do is jumping to conclusions....... else it leads to concussions........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 I'm 60 and don't feel my age. I credit having kids. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdipisReks1 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 8 hours ago, johnwmclean said: I thought the downhill start at 40? *phew* I still have 3.5 years, then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 56 minutes ago, EdipisReks1 said: *phew* I still have 3.5 years, then. Nah, it starts at 38. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdipisReks1 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 31 minutes ago, purk said: Nah, it starts at 38. 1.5! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wink Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 16 hours ago, morphsci said: I'm 60 and don't feel my age. I credit having kids. I'll be 69 in less than a month....... and I never feel my age. I may feel younger or older at different times, but I'm glad i still feel my pulse...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopstretch Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 TTVJ (and others, I assume) has $1,000 off Utopias with a nominal trade-in. I wonder if the measurement/QA back and forth with Tyll hurt sales? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMoney Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 ^ They have been available new at or below that price since launch if one were to do a little bargaining. Maybe they've just run out of customers to buy at the 4k price point? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Has to do with Innerfidelity for sure. I do own the Utopia and find them quite great and yes I didn't pay full price for them. Still, I think some reviewers have totally forgot to mention how little amplification one actually needed to power the Utopia. I get excellent results straight out from my Sony NW-ZX100 & ZX2. Yes, it does scale too but I can't imagine getting anything half decent with hard to drive Orthos such as Hifman HEK, Susvara, or LCD4 or even HD800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclragnarok Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Adorama is selling the Utopia for $2999 and the Elear for $699 without the trade-in: https://slickdeals.net/f/10519472-focal-open-headphones-utopia-2999-elear-699-free-shipping?v=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 You can generally get discounts on expensive headphones by asking. I'm assuming Adorama is intentionally burning bridges for a quick gain. I guess that's retail these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, justin said: You can generally get discounts on expensive headphones by asking. I'm assuming Adorama is intentionally burning bridges for a quick gain. I guess that's retail these days. Justin, TTYJ and Moon-Audio are doing the same discount in the month of October and no trade-in is required. Edited September 1, 2017 by purk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) i don't think that's true Adorama was removed from selling Audeze a while back because they refused to play by the rules The rules are mostly about advertised price edit: looks like adorama put the price back Edited September 1, 2017 by justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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