swt61 Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 Got the drawer dividers cut, glued and clamped up. I cut the drawer material to height, but a tad bit long and wide. I want to wait until the box cures, then I can un-clamp and measure to fit nice and snug. I have some drawer glide tape coming. This will attach to the bottom of the drawer sides and allow the drawers to slide with minimal friction. The box is too small for mechanical drawer glides. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted July 17, 2021 Report Share Posted July 17, 2021 Three sides of all four drawers are cut, assembled and bottoms slid into place. The drawers will be left natural, with a clear lacquer finish. Except the drawer fronts, which will be stained to match the box. The box sits atop the drawers for weight, to ensure that they dry flat. Ā Tomorrow I'll cut the fronts to fit and stain them. Ā Not sure what finish I'm goingĀ to use on the box, but IĀ think it'll probably be boiled linseed oil, with a top coat of Tried-N-True. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted July 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) I am working on my sailboat motor attachment and am using some 5/16ā carriage bolts in the end of the transom so the heads are flush. The material will be something called Starboard, which is a marine HDPE plastic. It will be two 3/4ā sheets put together. I am wondering how much material I need to make sure the square part of the bolts catch in the material? Should I just drill 5/16ā or go 3/8ā? The square part is .32ā * .32ā so the longĀ diagonal of the square is .45ā. Edited July 18, 2021 by luvdunhill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 I'd be tempted to drill the main hole the diameter of the threaded section and then try to use a countersink or maybe a forstner bit to enlarge a shallow portion to accept the square portion of the neck.Ā The HDPE is probably hard enough that you don't want to assume much engagement between the neck and the material or you likely won't get it to sit flush.Ā Some trial and error maybe required but at least it doesn't sound like you have to do this 100 times.Ā If it's possible to do this on a drill press you should have no issue iterating to get the right combo of depth and size.Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted July 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 47 minutes ago, n_maher said: I'd be tempted to drill the main hole the diameter of the threaded section and then try to use a countersink or maybe a forstner bit to enlarge a shallow portion to accept the square portion of the neck.Ā The HDPE is probably hard enough that you don't want to assume much engagement between the neck and the material or you likely won't get it to sit flush.Ā Some trial and error maybe required but at least it doesn't sound like you have to do this 100 times.Ā If it's possible to do this on a drill press you should have no issue iterating to get the right combo of depth and size.Ā Ā Would the countersink diameter be say 3/8ā - just enough to be able to get the bulk of the the square piece in? Yeah, I just need probably 4 or 5 holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted July 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 3 hours ago, luvdunhill said: Would the countersink diameter be say 3/8ā - just enough to be able to get the bulk of the the square piece in? Yeah, I just need probably 4 or 5 holes. At that point probably just best to use a hex head bolt and counter sink itā¦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 When using a carriage bolt, I've often just let the pressure of tightening the nut pull the squared part of the shank into the material. It should work even better in a plastic material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted July 18, 2021 Report Share Posted July 18, 2021 5 hours ago, swt61 said: When using a carriage bolt, I've often just let the pressure of tightening the nut pull the squared part of the shank into the material. It should work even better in a plastic material. Depends on the relative hardness of the plastic.Ā With wood I use the same methodology as you and let compressive forces do their thing but have no experience with HDPE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 Construction complete on the incense box. First coat of boiled linseed oil applied. The shop assistant approves.Ā 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted July 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 That looks nice!Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 Thanks. Fitz isn't looking at this thread, because he wants it to be a surprise when it arrives. I hope he likes it, as he just gave me the dimensions he wanted, and gave me free reign after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted July 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, swt61 said: Thanks. Fitz isn't looking at this thread, because he wants it to be a surprise when it arrives. I hope he likes it, as he just gave me the dimensions he wanted, and gave me free reign after that. Nice! Would some small adhesive Teflon tape or something on the bottom help the drawers slide in easier? It seems if you apply the pull or push force on the end of the drawer it might bind up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavitsk Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 53 minutes ago, luvdunhill said: Would some small adhesive Teflon tape or something on the bottom help the drawers slide in easier? Ā On 7/17/2021 at 1:25 PM, swt61 said: I have some drawer glide tape coming. This will attach to the bottom of the drawer sides and allow the drawers to slide with minimal friction. The box is too small for mechanical drawer glides. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 The drawers slide in and out easily now, even though I kept the tolerances tight. But as Doug pointed out, I have 1/64" thick glide tape coming. It's made out of the same thing as a butchers cutting board. That slick, White plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted July 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 That detail was only in the part you had to read. I just looked at the pictures and gave my own opinion - is that what the kids do these days? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, luvdunhill said: That detail was only in the part you had to read. I just looked at the pictures and gave my own opinion - is that what the kids do these days? They make memes.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augsburger Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 My experience has been if they can't make any build fit in a Tik ToKĀ video it doesn't get done. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 If IĀ built a Grandfather clock in a Tik Tok video, would that be irony? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Sawyers Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 This was anticipated in 1875: My grandfather's clock was too tall for the shelf So it stood ninety years on the floor It was taller by half than the old man himself But it weighed not a pennyweight more It was bought on the morn on the day that he was born It was always his treasure and pride But it stopped, short, never to go again When the old man died Ninety years without slumbering Tic toc tic toc His life's seconds numbering Tic toc tic toc etc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 I'm pretty happy with the finished product. May it house many fine incense boxes. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Beautiful, Milo! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Uhm, I'm Otis? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robm321 Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Very nice! whoever you are.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, swt61 said: Uhm, I'm Otis? Spunkmeyer I assume.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Spunkmaster. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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