What Are You Building Today

[VPI]

I was looking at that Shellix destroy stick. Seems intriguing. 

My plan for not messing with a jointer is twofold, I can use the jointer owned by the finish carpenter neighbor two houses down or more preferable I will build a sled to try to make the planer an efficient jointerish thing. 

[dsavitsk]

47 minutes ago, swt61 said:

 A portable/jobsite planar that needs more dust collection than a shopvac?

Yeah, that's perfectly sensible. 

On a jobsite, does anyone care about collecting dust? A planer is always going to make more, and larger, chips than a shopvac can handle.

[swt61]

My shopvac used to suck up 99% of the chips from my Rigid planar. Less cleanup.

[n_maher]

^^^ We've used a shopvac w/ my dad's Dewalt planer for going on 10 years.

[morphsci]

14 minutes ago, n_maher said:

^^^ We've used a shopvac w/ my dad's Dewalt planer for going on 10 years.

 

1 hour ago, swt61 said:

My shopvac used to suck up 99% of the chips from my Rigid planar. Less cleanup.

Make that three. Never any problems with either the planar or shop-vac.

[dsavitsk]

Fair enough. I've tried hooking up a shopvac to my jointer, and it did bupkis. The machine clogged.

https://woodworking.stackexchange.com/questions/768/what-advantages-does-a-dust-collector-have-over-a-shop-vac

[VPI]

Have any of you tried the simple sled/shims/hot glue option to make a jointerish device out of the planer?

[swt61]

The problem with that idea is that you don't have a fence to ride against, to keep two sides at 90 degrees to each other. 

However, I've had good luck with benchtop jointers.

https://beavertools.com/707400-jet-jjp-8bt-8-jointer-planer-combo.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAz4b_BRBbEiwA5XlVVuI9gqMlBDjj72IesgPnE5_Dp7G1EsgUkceE-_9AkiXclGC2ndfw2BoCkhAQAvD_BwE

[VPI]

I was watching videos of some 8 and 10” bench jointers from some Kentucky company. Think they are rebadged Taiwanese tools but seem to be nice and small for their capacity. Wahuda I think. 

[naamanf]

This will smash sticks much better. Plus I want someone else to try it before I bite the bullet

https://www.elitemetaltools.com/tool-shop/products/minimax-16-combination-jointer-and-planer-fs-41c?sku=FS 41C X

[VPI]

You must be putting your shop in a 12 car garage. I do not have room for that massive thing. 

[dsavitsk]

1 hour ago, VPI said:

Have any of you tried the simple sled/shims/hot glue option to make a jointerish device out of the planer?

It is useful if you have a piece of wood wider than your jointer, narrower than your planer, shorter than your sled, thick enough for your clamps to grab, not heavy enough to bend your sled, and you only want to face joint it. That leaves out 99.5% of the wood you'll ever want to joint, as well as edge jointing. Edge jointing can be done on a table saw or a router table, but I don't think you have either of those things either. And in both cases it only works so-so.

@Voltron and I have both recently purchased combo jointer planers from Hammer. Al is still waiting on his, and mine arrived after a 3 month wait only to sit in the garage due to movers failing to be able to get it to the basement. But I'm with @swt61that a small benchtop jointer makes sense until you think you are going to use it a lot. This one is fine for most things.

Alternatively, you can joint things larger than any power jointer with one of these for far less money.

 

[naamanf]

How much were those? Like very similar to the Minimax and the same size. 

[dsavitsk]

The Hammers come in 10", 12", and 16". The 16" is pretty comparable in price to the 16" Minimax. I got the 10" because I have never needed to work with something wider than that, and don't have the space for the larger tool. The 12" is probably the best deal, which is what Al got.

https://us.feldershop.com/en-US/en-US/Planing/Machines/

Edited December 23, 2020 by dsavitsk

[VPI]

7 hours ago, dsavitsk said:

It is useful if you have a piece of wood wider than your jointer, narrower than your planer, shorter than your sled, thick enough for your clamps to grab, not heavy enough to bend your sled, and you only want to face joint it. That leaves out 99.5% of the wood you'll ever want to joint, as well as edge jointing. Edge jointing can be done on a table saw or a router table, but I don't think you have either of those things either. And in both cases it only works so-so.

@Voltron and I have both recently purchased combo jointer planers from Hammer. Al is still waiting on his, and mine arrived after a 3 month wait only to sit in the garage due to movers failing to be able to get it to the basement. But I'm with @swt61that a small benchtop jointer makes sense until you think you are going to use it a lot. This one is fine for most things.

Alternatively, you can joint things larger than any power jointer with one of these for far less money.

 

Ordered that Grizzly one, back order is pretty extreme so I assume it will show up about the time I get bored with smashing sticks into box-like formats.

[dsavitsk]

If you get tired of waiting, the exact same jointer is available from several other "manufacturers" for slightly more money. Just search for benchtop jointer.

[VPI]

So it is crappy Chinese stuff?

[dsavitsk]

Taiwan I think. Basically, most power tools not made in europe (Felder, festool, scm, mafell, a few others) are made in the same factory. There are lots of overlaps and much of the price difference has to do with showrooms, warranty, and service.

http://www.geetech.com.tw/index.php/en/strategic-partenrship-e

 

[VPI]

I thought the table looked far better on this than on all the Taiwan crap I saw. 
 

Do not know of any Euro bench jointers. 

Edited December 23, 2020 by VPI

[swt61]

I had the Porter Cable version. It worked fine, but that's why I posted the Jet. I'm assuming it's American made.

[dsavitsk]

24 minutes ago, swt61 said:

Jet. I'm assuming it's American made.

Definitely not. But Northfield might still be made here.

[VPI]

Everything Jet makes seems to be Taiwanese. 
 

Northfield certainly has the website of an American Made company that has never heard of Taiwan. Half the pages are broken and all of it is Jr. High project web design. 

Edited December 24, 2020 by VPI

[dsavitsk]

I've seen them described as the last company making non-digital yet extremely expensive woodworking equipment

[naamanf]

Giving Hammer a call tomorrow. Looks like there is a 4-5 month wait now, but saving $1k might be worth it.

[VPI]

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