jpelg Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyBalls Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 hour ago, jpelg said: ^ I wasn't sure if the USB cable comment was a serious one or not, so left it alone. Scratched my head, then walked away confused 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Actually it does make a difference for me but then again I don't expect any of u guys to believe me either. I was in that camp once too. If you guys ever curious about comparing these USB cables that I have, just come by and I will have the DIY T2, SR009, SR007, and Orpheus to welcome you. Also it didn't cost me any more than $160 to find out and having the Walkman as digital transport really make the comparison pretty easy for me. Edited October 18, 2016 by purk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wink Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 It NEVER ceases to amaze me how some people can't understand that all hearing is not created equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I think people understand that, they just all think they have the golden ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 No golden ears. Just a curse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 My ears are flesh, but my penis is platinum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Sawyers Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Ooh - shiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Well, I do polish it regularly. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzziguy Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 You must have huge Nevr-Dull bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyBalls Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 3 hours ago, swt61 said: Well, I do polish it regularly. Nearly choked on my coffee. Bastard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edstrelow Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Don't waste your money on these, or Stax for that matter. Only now are manufacturers starting to deal with the problems of mechanical vibrations in the housing. Sennheiser seems to have been the first with the use of damping material in the headband of the HD800. I would assume their new electrostatic does the same. Grado is using proprietary polcarbonate in its e series and claims, probably correctly, that it improves transient performance. Audioquest and B&W are using damping in their phones and claiming it reduces mechanical crosstalk between the earcups. My experience, from applying sorbothane to earcups and headbands, confirms these claims. There is a lot of acoustic energy floating around earcups, which harms performance in many ways. The benefits of effective damping are quite large. In something like the Sennheiser stat, damping is probably going to be the major advantage over the Stax line. If Senn hasn't damped that phone, then a sorbed Stax 007 or 009 should outperform it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I like to take it a step further and make my own dampening material. I start by collecting roadkill. About 12 squirrels, two skunks or one large raccoon will work well. Skin the roadkill and boil down the carcasses slowly for about 10 hours. remove any large particles, and strain the remaining liquid. Further reduce your dampening juice for another 2 - 3 hours at a low flame. Add one packet of Knox gelatin mix, then allow to cool overnight. Done. Slice your dampening gel as needed and apply to your favorite headphones. They'll sound so good that you'll want to listen all day, but they'll smell so bad that you won't. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mypasswordis Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Remember that one guy with all the ants in his SR009? Imagine what it would look like with rodent jello 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin ear Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 7 hours ago, edstrelow said: Don't waste your money on these, or Stax for that matter. Only now are manufacturers starting to deal with the problems of mechanical vibrations in the housing. Sennheiser seems to have been the first with the use of damping material in the headband of the HD800. I would assume their new electrostatic does the same. Grado is using proprietary polcarbonate in its e series and claims, probably correctly, that it improves transient performance. Audioquest and B&W are using damping in their phones and claiming it reduces mechanical crosstalk between the earcups. My experience, from applying sorbothane to earcups and headbands, confirms these claims. There is a lot of acoustic energy floating around earcups, which harms performance in many ways. The benefits of effective damping are quite large. In something like the Sennheiser stat, damping is probably going to be the major advantage over the Stax line. If Senn hasn't damped that phone, then a sorbed Stax 007 or 009 should outperform it. please tell me that you're not going to bang on about the benefits of sorbothane here too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mypasswordis Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Clearly Grado, Audioquest and B&W are the stalwarts of good headphone sound, and Stax with no sorbothane sounds like a hippo farting through a wet rag. This is the guy who said doing the port mod on the SR007 increases the bass.... and I just found this gem: Instead of using a headband, just hold the earcups next to your head! Best mod ever, but it will make changing volume difficult. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwmclean Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, mypasswordis said: Instead of using a headband, just hold the earcups next to your head! Best mod ever, but it will make changing volume difficult. I have no issue adjusting the volume with my nose. Edited October 23, 2016 by johnwmclean 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave R Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) I wonder if ear plugs made out of this "sorbothane" stuff, then put in my friends ears, would stop his tinnitus. ? Edited October 23, 2016 by Dave R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefQon Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Dave R said: I wonder if ear plugs made out of this "sorbothane" stuff, then put in my friends ears, would stop his tinnitus. ? He could try this: http://promedicalaudio.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wink Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 What Mr Strelow needs here is an arc of sorb over his head from one ear to the other, and forget about the headphones. That way he can imagine just how good the music sounds without the problem of any mechanical cumbrances, Win-win, right there..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Wow headphones without a headband...that is pure genius or utter delusion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I think he should apply some sorbothane to this 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Then I won't create any unwanted harmonics when I drill it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sechtdamon Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) 22 hours ago, edstrelow said: Don't waste your money on these, or Stax for that matter. Only now are manufacturers starting to deal with the problems of mechanical vibrations in the housing. how the heck can a 1,5-3 micron thick diaphragm with nearly 0 mass moving 0,25 mm back and forward can make mechanical vibrations which effect housing or pass through headband and cause crosstalk? And when you hold the earcups with your hands, what do you do about blood pulses? You stop your heart? I don't really know what sorbothane is. Does it have psychedelic effects? Edited October 23, 2016 by Sechtdamon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave R Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 10 hours ago, DefQon said: He could try this: http://promedicalaudio.com/ Apparently there's no cure for tinnitus, so me mentioning as to whether sorbothane would stop tinnitus was me trying to be sarcastic seeing how edstrelow has been posting more than enough about how amazing it is on HF. Never thought he'd start posting about it here on HC though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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