mtoc Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 They use stax's terminus, so don't worry, we can build the amps ourselves!
DefQon Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 Large open area and no dampening/dust filter? In before $4k price tag.
spritzer Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 That back plate is all kinds of stupid. It's the HE Audio 1.3 all over again.
spritzer Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 Yeah and you really don't want anything reflective on the back. So open and inert....which this isn't. 1
purk Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 Do we have pricing on this guy? Maybe 6k just to outdo the LCD-4?
spritzer Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 Fang is supposed to have said it will be similar to the Orpheus II.... If so he has completely lost his marbles. Nothing they make is worth the asking price now based on the sound and the build quality, let alone something like this. 1
TMoney Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 12 minutes ago, spritzer said: Nothing they make is worth the asking price now based on the sound and the build quality, let alone something like this. To be fair, the HE-1000 and HE-X both do sound quite good. I fully agree with you that neither is worth the current ask.
kevin gilmore Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Pictures of the amp over there, 4 X 300b and a very large internal heatsink. who knows what the fuck is in there, transformers, current sources, given the lack of quality on the previous hifiman solid state amp, an overpriced piece of crap for sure. for the longest time I thought that a all dht fully direct coupled amp with an $18k parts cost was so out of line that no one would ever build it. Now we have 2 companies trying to sell $40k+ amp and headphone systems. stupidass 1
n3rdling Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Agreed that HFM is charging too much for the sound and build quality of their products. I liked the HE1000 while I had it but it's probably twice as expensive as it should be selling for. The build quality for a $3k product was a joke...fake wood, fake chrome, fake leather, etc. HFM has serious issues with quality control regarding variability from unit to unit - I've heard huge differences between different pairs of HE1000s. These companies (mainly HFM/Audeze) will keep getting away with this price gouging as long as there are fools around to stuff their pockets for sub par products. 6
lkong Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Bian said it would be more expensive than his BYD "Tang" which is an electronic vehicle with MSRP from 180k to 440k RMB (27k - 66k USD).
purk Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 I've heard a rumor that it will be around 6-8k for the phones. Now Audeze will have to come up with something more expensive so each company can sell a 10K headphones. I hate the look of it.
Hopstretch Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 5 hours ago, n3rdling said: These companies (mainly HFM/Audeze) will keep getting away with this price gouging as long as there are fools around to stuff their pockets for sub par products. So, forever? Intentionally or not, Senn has created a massive amount of pricing headroom at the high end with the new Orpheus. Your stereotype rich audiophool with $250,000+ in his speaker system isn't ever going to buy a product that costs a few hundred bucks, because it "must" be mass-market crap. Get your system north of $10,000, add fine Corinthian leather and a sprinkle of nano materials and it might be worthy of notice.
chinsettawong Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Let's make a pair of DIY headphones with best possible components. I'm sure they'll cost only a fraction of what they're selling, and they could sound as good too. Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
spritzer Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Let's just look away that 300B's are in no way compatible for electrostatic use. This has audiophool written all over it... Me thinks Mjölnir Audio is up to the task of making a 80k$ amp/headphone combo. I wonder if I can cryo freeze some ice and use it as a part of the chassis.... 3
JonChoivo Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 1 hour ago, spritzer said: Let's just look away that 300B's are in no way compatible for electrostatic use. This has audiophool written all over it... Me thinks Mjölnir Audio is up to the task of making a 80k$ amp/headphone combo. I wonder if I can cryo freeze some ice and use it as a part of the chassis.... Since you only charge for parts, that is something i would really like to see. At 80k, you might need to CNC a case for titanium to meet that budget.
skullguise Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 2 hours ago, spritzer said: I wonder if I can cryo freeze some ice and use it as a part of the chassis.... Ask Patrick @ Coconut Audio, he'll give you some good tips
spritzer Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 Stuff like this is all about the markup so one would have to layer it on thick! I have plans to make a set of headphones one day but who knows if it will ever happen... As for the topic at hand, I can't see anything here that would warrant such a price. I have fond memories of the Jade and there they showed zero clue what makes this stuff tick. When they were gone there was naturally the usual "OMG these were great" bullshit but they are still awful. 2
HeadphoneAddict Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 Not trying to be contrary, but I owned a pair of HE Audio Jade that sounded very nice, and everyone who tried them liked them. The Jade didn't have the depth of stage and imaging that the SR-007 Mk1 had, but they also didn't have the shouty mids and bass hump of my Mk2. Their bass didn't extend as deep as the Mk1, but I really enjoyed having a smooth and sparkly treble that matched the midrange levels (where the mids seemed more recessed on the Mk1 and more forward on the Mk2). The Jade weren't perfect, but I didn't think my O2 Mk1 and Mk2 were perfect either. I still prefer my HE-60 the most - they're so alive, energetic, and transparent sounding that they made my Mk1 sound bland in side by side comparison. Then again, I'm one of those that also likes the HE-6 and HE-1000 or HD-800. I haven't heard their new electrostatic, and I'm not defending them so much as I'm saying we should give them a fair chance before writing them off. I am in agreement that prices in general are getting ridiculous lately, and while I was eager to jump on the bandwagon in 2009 for a new HD800 at their crazy price then, I'm not so eager to pounce on a > $2K headphone anymore. 1
naamanf Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 I liked my HE 1.2 or whatever they were called way moar that the 007. Admittedly they were built like shit. 1
mtoc Posted January 9, 2016 Author Report Posted January 9, 2016 @HeadphoneAddict come on man, SR-007 is the most perfect cans in the world so far in our master SPRITZER's mind. I trust spritzer.
DefQon Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 I would agree with his assessment though, having owned the 009 and Omega 1`s and hearing an mk1 and black mk2. I would say the O1 has more detail retrieval of the 3 models. 1
nopants Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 I can help you with the omega but most of my amplifiers are a bit unwieldy to ship, to say the least
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