Sennheiser HE1060/HEV1060 (New Orpheus)

[purk]

http://en-au.sennheiser.com/orpheus

 

The cat is out of the bag.  What do you guys think of the potential of the Senn HE-1060/HEV1060 combo beside breaking the bank?  Thanks.

[kugino]

does it come with a power cord?

[spritzer]

I have some issues about all of this besides the retarded price and the utter certainty of the amp being shit.  First off is having the amps in the earcups, good idea in many ways but mosfet output?  I don't know of any SMD mosfets with low output capacitance which is crucial.  200pf into a 50pf (just guessing) will make this sound worse than the Cavalli crap and that says a lot.  Before people jump to and say that Sennheiser wouldn't do that... well they did in both the HEV90 and the HEV70.  Sure it was the tubes in the 90 but still the same applies. 

I have the strange sensation that I will change one of these to a bloody Stax plug in the future so it can be driven properly...  Going by the stuff I get asked to do all the time it wouldn't be a shock. 

[purk]

So can we count on you to buy it and report back Birgir?  Price is way way too high...I'm way out.

[spritzer]

I get a massive discount but even then I'm out as I just bought a house. 

[dcpoor]

http://www.sennheiser-reshapingexcellence.com/en?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Owned&utm_campaign=Reveal#

the whole over-the-top grandiosity of it makes me laugh.

Edited November 3, 2015 by dcpoor

[HiWire]

With a price tag of €50,000: http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/3/9663230/sennheisers-new-orpheus-headphones-will-cost-you-55000

Kind of makes the HD800S seem reasonable.

[nopants]

I get a massive discount but even then I'm out as I just bought a house. 

congrats on the house purchase liquidate your stax collection so you can buy another one

[robm321]

Well, it finally happened. Its $55K, so I just wanted to watch you 1%ers talk about it while I eat popcorn. 

http://www.sennheiser-reshapingexcellence.com/en?utm_source=HeadFi&utm_medium=Earned&utm_campaign=Build

 

[spritzer]

Thanks.    Not a whole lot of stuff left but I might sell T2...    In true Icelandic tradition I'm spending way too much on this so yeah, it would help... 

[spritzer]

Check the Stax thread... 

[purk]

Thanks.    Not a whole lot of stuff left but I might sell T2...    In true Icelandic tradition I'm spending way too much on this so yeah, it would help... 

I expect that you can get them for around 30K if you are tight with your local Sennheiser dealer.  Sell the T2 for 12-15K...then boom....sell 3-4 carbons.  

Congrats on buying a house!

Edited November 3, 2015 by purk

[Hopstretch]

Well the Senn web site says putting the amps in the cups makes it 200% better. So they have hard numbers on their side!

[Ali-Pacha]

Ok I'm a bit naive thinking my questions would have some echoes on HF, but I did try 

BTW, maybe I should have asked them here...I knew it :

Kevin Gilmore's assumption on capacitance to drive may be a bit pessimistic ( http://www.head-fi.org/t/779102/did-sennheiser-just-reveal-the-orpheus-successor/975#post_12011474 ) since Sennheiser claims 200% efficiency improvement. 40 pf are not that far from 50 pf, BTW.

That said, very curious to see how Sennheiser manages amplification...ok, one need "only" 30% of the current to drive the phones properly, but hey, 30% of a SRM-T2 (that's at least the class we are talking about) still is a lot of room and heat to dissipate.

Very curious about the "thick" diaphragm too.

I've to say I'll be very interested in some mafia's enlightments 

Ali

[spritzer]

They have to be doing push pull so not Class A but yeah, there is no substitute for current. 

[HiWire]

Does anybody know the warranty terms for the original Orpheus? You kind of expect something built out of marble to last.

Edited November 3, 2015 by HiWire

[purk]

Does anybody know the warranty terms for the original Orpheus? You kind of expect something built out of marble to last.

Probably a standard Sennheiser Warranty but at 50K it should come with 10-year power train & 100,000 miles warranty.  I wonder how much better is this headphones compared to the original HE90 + DIY T2/Aristaeus.

[GeorgeP]

... I wonder how much better is this headphones compared to the original HE90 + DIY T2/Aristaeus.

I doubt there will be any way to find out because I suspect the built in DAC might do all sorts of signal manipulation to get the sound presentation and frequency response they are looking for.

 

http://www.sennheiser-reshapingexcellence.com/en?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=Owned&utm_campaign=Reveal#

the whole over-the-top grandiosity of it makes me laugh.

Wait, what? You mean it doesn't fly? I was actually thinking this would be a fairly cheap option to transatlantic airfare over the next several years, and I could listen to music at the same time. 

[purk]

I think the amp also accept a line level input bypassing the internal DAC.    Wonder how much is the mfg. cost for Senn...15k in total?

[DefQon]

[edstrelow]

$55,000 or is it Euros gets you a modern version of the Koss ESP6.  With the proprietary amp in the earcups (Koss used transformers) I doubt that anyone will be able to assess the headphones by themselves because the proprietary stuff will be in the way. 

Edited November 4, 2015 by edstrelow

[Laowei]

Add some tacky gold plating and they will sell like iPhones in China. 

Edited November 4, 2015 by Laowei

[luvdunhill]

Where is the output jack?

[n_maher]

Where is the output jack?

I think it's in the center of the headphone case.

[luvdunhill]

Oh, didn't realize that case was integrated into the amp, I thought it was just resting there.