Grahame Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 More shots that might be of interest 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 This was in the service center at Aston of Dallas being prepped for delivery. Said it was selling for a measly $4.5m. They were getting nervous when I was getting to close with a boner. I wonder how they got to 3 times list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I was wondering the same. They said list is base price before options and dealer mark-up. I have a feeling the allotment is pretty low and dealer thievery I mean markup is the killer due to demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 People who have that much money are supposed to be able to negotiate right? That is nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 People who have that much money have their people buy stuff for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 And probably have their own version of Brent "advising" / enabling them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMoney Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Got up early to go for some spirited driving. I took the Panoramic Highway out to Stinson Beach, grabbed a cup of coffee at the cafe, then took Highway 1 back to Tam Junction. I had the road to myself the entire time. Fucking brilliant! The Panoramic Highway stretch is just excellent driving. http://www.motorcycleroads.com/75/1330/California/The-Panoramic-Highway.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanDragon Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 On 11/8/2015, 3:43:47, Grahame said: I've often wondered I about the (top trumps?) obsession with raw horsepower, when power / weight ratio is a better performance metric given that we are talking about cars, not power stations . Because math(s) is hard? Or better yet given F = MA , thrust per unit mass? So I had this typed up a couple weeks ago but then lost it when browser crashed or maybe I accidentally hit back. I came back today to this thread and accidentally hit something in the reply box and this popped up, so... I once argued with a TVA engineer who was talking about HP at the crank vs the wheel. He swore you subtracted 17% to go from crank to wheel, and then added 17% to go from wheel to crank. I tried to explain that it would be more like 20% to go from wheel HP to crank, but he went off saying that that was ridiculous. I tried to explain reciprocals to someone with a degree in engineering by using 4/5ths and 5/4ths, but yeah, he couldn't grasp that concept. I meant to find out which "engineering school" he went to, to make sure I can try to avoid others graduates. It's painful talking to a lot of car guys, but I know some who do it right. **BRENT** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Well you both were wrong. It's not a set percentage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanDragon Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 It was a well quoted percentage for the car and dyno used. **BRENT** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Still a stupid argument given you both were probably right and wrong under different conditions. Ha. Yes the reciprocal would be the proper calculation. Maybe Shelly can give us all a third grade math lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swt61 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 ^ This is absolutely correct, it's different for every car, because there are numerous variables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Brent was talking a specific car in specific conditions and the engineer was wrong. Generalizing it to say that they both were right in that specific case seems the stupid thing to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 I actually think he was talking about the math. Using the same percentage for gain and loss doesn't work. If you know the loss ratio from engine to wheel you need to use the reciprocal from wheel to engine. Then again do we ever know what he is talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPI Posted November 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Sorry, Brent is always wrong, it is a basic rule of nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naamanf Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Unless he is rating biscuits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPI Posted November 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) No, he has never had a good biscuit, significant work has taken place to ensure that. He knows nothing of a good biscuit, he gets his from fast food chicken places in the ghetto. Edited November 21, 2015 by VPI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanDragon Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 27 minutes ago, naamanf said: I actually think he was talking about the math. Using the same percentage for gain and loss doesn't work. If you know the loss ratio from engine to wheel you need to use the reciprocal from wheel to engine. Then again do we ever know what he is talking about? Just took you a few hours to get it; not bad for someone so follically challenged. **BRENT** 16 minutes ago, VPI said: No, he has never had a good biscuit, significant work has taken place to ensure that. He knows nothing of a good biscuit, he gets his from fast food chicken places in the ghetto. You have obviously never had fast food chicken from the Mr. Zip on Orchard Knob in the Ghetto. Actually, if you are ever forced to come back to Chatt, do it near a weekend and I'll take you to Lamar's. The way I describe this place is "It's where Billy Dee Williams would eat fried chicken at 1 o'clock in the morning." The do not serve biscuits. **BRENT** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPI Posted November 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 This thread needs more pictures. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leve Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 This is probably a little different to the cars that most here are interested in, but someone did ask for pics so I thought I'd add it because it's a cool shot. Tuning this is my day job. It runs in Top Alcohol Funny Car in Australia. Has run a best elapsed time of 5.410 @ 267 mph: 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPI Posted November 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiSam Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Very cool gig you have! HS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leve Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Thanks VPI and HemiSam. I've been running these things for 30 odd years now, as has the driver of the car. It's our aim to ship the car to the US and run there for a while before we retire The big league and the rules are a little different, so a new challenge for us. We're doing a pass against Daniel Ricciardo in his F1 in 3 weeks.. something a bit different. There's a video about it here: Perth Speed Fest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiSam Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 That sould be fun to see. F1 vs all out drag racer. Not something you see every day... Let us know where you run in the U.S., Leve. Cheers, HS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cetoole Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Just rolled my first ride over the 280k mark. Don't know why I bothered with BMW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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