shellylh Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 I know that spirits with over 40% alcohol should last indefinitely even if opened (as long as they have a cap on them). What about lower proof liqueurs? I have about 20 bottles of opened liqueurs in my liquor cabinet that I haven't used in a couple of years. They range from 18% (pear liqueur) alcohol to 30% (Ramazzoti) alcohol. They have all been opened for at least 3 years. I am going to throw away everything under 20%. I am thinking of also getting rid of every under 30%. The question is what to do with stuff around 30%. Given that I don't really drink they very much and I have a limited amount of space in my liquor cabinet, this seems like a rational decision. Does anyone know a link to a reference to how long liqueur at a certain proof will last (for now and the future)?
n_maher Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Here's what I found, Shelly. Seems pretty thorough and reasonable. http://cocktails.about.com/od/stockyourbar/f/liquor_storage.htm
shellylh Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Posted March 14, 2015 Thanks Nate. I saw this but it didn't seem that helpful. "Once you begin to see any sugar crystallizing on the bottom, discoloration, curdling or other changes you will want to throw that bottle away or at least give it a taste test before mixing with it." The problem is some of the liqueurs I have only use a couple of times in cocktails back when I was going to the Anvil list. So I don't know the original color of the liqueur and don't know what it should taste like. I can certainly look for crystallizing or curdling.
Voltron Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 You don't have to throw away any of that stuff, Shelly. Nothing you described above like pear liqueur and Ramazotti should be pitched for the sake of age. Liqueurs last a very long time without ever being "spoiled" or unhealthy in some way. I have open bottles of my own that are many years old and they taste fine and have no issues other than a possible softening of flavors. I also just recently finished off a Grand Marnier that my grandfather had purchased decades ago. I also kick myself now for throwing away some Galliano and other random liqueurs my grandfather had left in the house.
shellylh Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Posted March 14, 2015 Grand Marnier has 40% alcohol so I would assume it would last for decades. Doesn't the alcohol percentage make a big difference?
Voltron Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 I am not sure of your concern other than space but I don't think there is a health and safety worry on any of it. If there are things you want to pitch to make room for other things, that is totally up to you. But I have creme de cassis (16%) and ginger liqueur (18%) and Allspice Dram (22.5%) that I have no concerns about after years of being open. Velvet Falernum (11%) gets sediment at the bottom after awhile but I have never experienced ill effects of making a Corn-N-Oil or whatever with it.
skullguise Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Agreed with Jacob. Only ones I'd be concerned about are the cream-like ones..... And Al, my father still has some Galliano that must be ~35 years old! I remember sneaking some as a kid, maybe in my early teens.... 1
GrindingThud Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Chambord oxidizes pretty quickly after being open and will eventually turn a nasty brown. Cognac will oxidize also. Scotch is somewhere around 6 months or so after opening. Unopened they last indefinitely.
shellylh Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Posted March 14, 2015 Thanks Al, Jacob, and Todd. I'll just get rid of the stuff I don't like (amaretto, etc.) to make room, unless Mike Sr and Debbie want to take some stuff when they are here next weekend.
Torpedo Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 The stuff is fine. High sugar content and alcohol, even at lower ABV, are potent anti-microbials. This. The only concern would be the degradation of the organoleptic properties due to further maceration, but distilled liquors aren't wines or beers, they usually don't have yeasts or fungus converting sugar in more alcohol. What a pity, my wife loves Amaretto. You should try it on a properly made tiramisú 2
shellylh Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Posted March 14, 2015 Just not really a fan of amaretto but maybe I'll give it another try.
Augsburger Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 Or an amaretto sour... The Beard is wise, follow his advice.
grawk Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 I definitely have scotch that's over 6 months old. It's crazy talk to say it goes bad that fast.
shellylh Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Posted March 15, 2015 I think Dan was responding to GrindingThud's post.
grawk Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 Hell, Mikey's entire existence owes itself to the fact that you can keep open scotch around longer than 6 months. He'd be LONG dead otherwise. 4
kevin gilmore Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 I still have a bottle of some Cuban liquor that my parents brought back from their honeymoon 63 years ago. Still tastes great. If scotch (or any other whiskey) only lasts 6 months, I'm going to have to take the next 2 months off of work and go on a real bender. 3
Voltron Posted March 15, 2015 Report Posted March 15, 2015 We'd have to finish off your open stockpile before heading to Chicago! When do we get back to work? 2
nikongod Posted March 16, 2015 Report Posted March 16, 2015 I'm a bit surprised KG hasn't built a nitrogen/noble gas purge system to rid his bottles of oxygen. You can buy "canned air" looking cans filled with noble gas for this purpose... And people used to do this with photo-chemicals to increase their shelf life.
Dusty Chalk Posted March 17, 2015 Report Posted March 17, 2015 Don't give him ideas, man, he probably has all the parts.
jvlgato Posted March 18, 2015 Report Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Yeah, KG, I'll take your over 6 months old supply of scotch or any other whiskey off your hands for you! I'll even drive over and pick it up to make it easy for you! Edited March 18, 2015 by jvlgato
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