UFN Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 Anyone already bought this one and/or seriously considering it? Seriously tempted to try one against my M-Dac with the added bonus that it could drive my T1s directly More info: http://soekris.com/products/audio-products/dam1021.html https://hifiduino.wordpress.com/2015/01/30/building-soekris-r-2r-dac/ and a couple of gargantuan diyaudio-threads //UFN
lkong Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 I have ordered mine yesterday. 0.02% version. It seems to be a good fit for my office rig.
spritzer Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 I've thought about it. I could use an extra dac...
nopants Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 I'm not a fan of the clock generation but all the other features look solid. Nice possibilities with both buffered/unbuffered outputs.
RudeWolf Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 I'm currently in progress of building one.
G600 Posted February 3, 2015 Report Posted February 3, 2015 Definitely interested in reading your honest and sometimes rough opinions upon this suspect.
deepak Posted February 3, 2015 Report Posted February 3, 2015 It looks like an interesting DAC (output taken directly off the R2R for single ended), I've been following it for a while. There is an issue with the current firmware (this should be updated according to Soren)- there is DC surge when switching sampling rates and two people have fried their speaker drivers. So be sure to manually mute before you do that.
RudeWolf Posted February 4, 2015 Report Posted February 4, 2015 These plops occur at Fs change when using certain USB/I2S interfaces and aren't harmful to your speakers. One guy fried his speakers by directly connecting the DAC to a 400W amp. All in all a reasonable thing to do, only if the DAC doen't lose it's connection to the potentiometer. Which it did (prototype setup, less than optimal soldering...) and gave the speakers a taste of that class D glory. As for the other guy - he somehow damaged the SMPSU. Sure, there are still kinks to iron out, but it is to be expected. Fortunately the DAC has a serial port which can be used to reprogram its firmware.
RudeWolf Posted February 6, 2015 Report Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) It lives. Sounds very nice. The Amanero interface causes drop-outs and nasty plops on Fs change, which isn't very nice. The word is that a certain Chinese USB->I2S interface by one Diyinhk doesn't behave that way. Edited February 6, 2015 by RudeWolf 2
eslover Posted February 7, 2015 Report Posted February 7, 2015 Nice RudeWolf. Not evererybody reported loud plops when changing Fs with the amanero (see dimdim post and video). I am wondering if it has to do with the drivers (?). I guess i'll find out as son as I get the amanero.
Earspeakers Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 Great find, thanks for the mention! I've been looking at doing my own FPGA Spartan driven R2R DAC, and here it comes in a nice package. I'll see if he's willing to share his VHDL/Verilog for expert hacking.
lkong Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 Got mine running yesterday with xmos usb-i2s, sslv +/- 12 PSU and stock firmware (still waiting for my usb-serial to arrive). My first impression is this DAC has really clear sound, decent treble and mid. Yet the soundstage isn't very deep and the bass is not adequate. My comparison is based on the same amp and headphone and comparing r2r to my forssell mdac-2
RudeWolf Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 An acquaintance of mine did a series of tests and measurements on his DAC and it turned out that current filters are less than optimal. To get the best sound try feeding in as high resolution signal as you can. I'm waiting for a new set of filters to come out.
RudeWolf Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 Just swapped out the digital filter on my DAC. I consider it to be a must! So far the best one for me was MB1 by TNT on DIYA.
lkong Posted February 19, 2015 Report Posted February 19, 2015 Just swapped out the digital filter on my DAC. I consider it to be a must! So far the best one for me was MB1 by TNT on DIYA. What kind USB RS232 did you use? Mine from adafruit doesnt seem to get the job done right.
RudeWolf Posted February 19, 2015 Report Posted February 19, 2015 I dunno, a pretty generic one? Did you cross the transmit and receive wires?
PretentiousFood Posted February 19, 2015 Report Posted February 19, 2015 Surprisingly, many current motherboards have RS232 support built in to the motherboard. If you're using a desktop, check the manual and you might just need to buy header off of eBay.
lkong Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 I bought a trendnet USB-RS232 from amazon, it works well with soekris's R2R. With new firmware and NOS filter, Ive be able to do all the conversion and upsampling with my HQplayer. The bass is back although still not quite perfect. Also running in NOS reflects filter changes in HQplayer very well.
Earspeakers Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 I wonder how it would do with a balanced tube output stage. Circuit ideas anyone?
nikongod Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 I wonder how it would do with a balanced tube output stage. Circuit ideas anyone? The "Broskie cathode follower" lends its self well to balanced drive. Build 2, and hook them up out of phase. You could also build a simple long-tail-pair output stage with a robust small-signal tube (5687, 6h30, etc) and transformer couple to the output. If you want to get fancy (and why not?) use a blumlein garter instead of a LTP.
luvdunhill Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 .. or check out some of Allen Wright's output stages. I have never heard a tube output stage for as DAC that I really liked. Transformers and solid state seemed to always to better, but I am all for experimentation!
lkong Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Hooked up r2r with a beaglebone black. BBB is using master clock feed by r2r. Sweet lil setup of a streaming box 1
Earspeakers Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Hooked up r2r with a beaglebone black. BBB is using master clock feed by r2r. Sweet lil setup of a streaming box I was thinking of doing same. Do tell, how'd you wire it up? Could you put up a table?
b0bb Posted May 28, 2015 Report Posted May 28, 2015 Soekris R2R connected to the Raspberry Pi2 (RPI2) Soekris integrated in to existing Logitech Media Server setup with 2 existing RPI2s and 2 squeezeboxes. I In the background is the LMS playlist manager, in the foreground is the player control app. 1
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