morphsci Posted May 27, 2021 Report Share Posted May 27, 2021 Just cancelled my Tidal subscription since it looks like there is almost no difference in the music I care about between Tidal and Qobuz anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullguise Posted May 27, 2021 Report Share Posted May 27, 2021 I need to try out Qobuz too.....Tidal hasn't been bad for me, and there's SW that let's you rip for offline use. But the MQA thing does bug me....thankfully most of the music I've been streaming isn't MQA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMoney Posted May 27, 2021 Report Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) I think I’m jumping ship to (cr)Apple music soon. Once lossless is ubiquitous, Tidal loses a lot of its draw. Edit: OK, just watched the video. Goodbye, Tidal. That video is so damning. Edited May 28, 2021 by TMoney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gepardcv Posted May 28, 2021 Report Share Posted May 28, 2021 There’s now a part 2, if you feel like spending some more time: There’s pure insanity going on surrounding this on various forums. The pro-MQA crowd is now engaged in trench-warfare trying to discredit the guy who posted these videos. Changed its tune to “well we never said it was lossless — it’s lossy but BETTER than lame old lossless!”. There’s an edit war going on in the Wikipedia MQA article. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMoney Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 If MQA was a nothing-burger that didn't add anything over lossless I would have just shrugged and kept using Tidal. Bit-perfect lossless is the goal. Those videos suggest that MQA tracks generated from hi-rez masters actually harm the sound vs. just having a redbook FLAC. That is totally unacceptable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefy Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, TMoney said: Those videos suggest that MQA tracks generated from hi-rez masters actually harm the sound vs. just having a redbook FLAC. That is totally unacceptable. Come on, didn't you read the marketing copy? By being lossy in weird obtuse ways, MQA is now better than lossless! I'm watching this manufactured drama unfold with morbid fascination. I just wish I knew what problem MQA was supposed to solve. Want lossless? FLAC. Want compression? MP3, AAC, Vorbis. Is MQA a better lossy compression? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Just give the community enough resources to actually test it and prove it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robm321 Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 Left Tidal for Qobuz a long time ago. Qobuz has real hi-rez. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullguise Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 Just added Qobuz trial, will play for the 30 days via Roon and go from there..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gepardcv Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 I’m on the Qobuz trial, too. Playing through Audirvana, which gives 90 days. Enjoying the curated content, and it actually sounds better than Tidal to me. Too bad there’s no easy way to ABX, or I’d give it a shot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiSam Posted May 29, 2021 Report Share Posted May 29, 2021 I've been on Deezer for years. Not the greatest interface but FLAC quality and I've got playlists I've invested in creating... I've often wondered whether they will continue to survive in the U.S. but so far so good. Only odd thing was I once had to cancel to enjoy a reduced rate that was more reasonable ($15/mo vs a good bit more if memory serves). HS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penger Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Had never heard of Primephonic before this, but interesting news for the classical music fans who have Apple Music. https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/30/22648604/apple-acquires-primephonic-classical-music-streaming-service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Yeah, I tried Primephonic for the trial period when I first heard of it many months...or a year? ago, it was...fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullguise Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 So TIDAL is apparently catching up a tiny bit with the times....just got an email, and they now have 3 tiers: Free tier with basically MP3 quality HiFi tier with CD ( ? ) quality HiFi Plus tier with HiRez quality where available I was in the HiFi tier, and got upgraded to HiFi Plus at same price. No word of course on MQA.....at least not in the skimming I saw. I'll likely hang on to it for longer now, but will see about ultra-long-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 I got a complimentary upgrade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Me n+1! Additionally, they promised to give my favourite band every month 10% of my fee -- that's like $1.50, which is about $1.50 more (with rounding) than they're getting from Spotify, as I tend to listen to some very underground bands. https://tidal.com/formusic?showLove=true&crm=true Just decided to keep Tidal, if for nothing else, for that. Of course, in April, that'll probably be Kylie Minogue, but that's okay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted November 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) Speaking of which, Slickdeals points out three months trial, any plan, for $1 https://slickdeals.net/f/15409318-tidal-music-subscription-3-months-1-00-any-plan-bestbuy In the comments they point out best buy has 6 month of apple music for free* (new subscribers only) https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-free-apple-music-for-6-months-new-subscribers-only/6451501.p?skuId=6451501 But my favorite comment was "I just subscribed through Argentina via VPN it's like 1.5 usd a month for hifi" Geographical Arbitrage FTW Edited November 18, 2021 by Grahame 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blessingx Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Seems the Spotify hifi tier timing is still unknown (missed earlier stated EOY). https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Music-HiFi-Quality-Lossless-Streaming-16bit-44/idc-p/5324421#M238504 Edited January 9, 2022 by blessingx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullguise Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) ^^ My son is waiting for that....I am giving him my Elac Discovery endpoint, it does Roon (he can't use that when they move to their new apt.) and Spotify connect. I am also giving him a pair of speakers and a receiver. Sounded good with Spotify, but not as good as with Tidal/Roon..... Edited January 9, 2022 by skullguise 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefy Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, blessingx said: Seems the Spotify hifi tier timing is still unknown (missed earlier stated EOY). https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Music-HiFi-Quality-Lossless-Streaming-16bit-44/idc-p/5324421#M238504 Jebus. How hard would it be for them to just start serving up 16/44.1 FLAC in addition to 16/44.1 MP3? Maybe an exclusive KS/WASAPI mode in the desktop app. That's all it would take for me to be a very happy camper. Edited January 9, 2022 by Beefy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 On 1/9/2022 at 2:07 PM, Beefy said: Jebus. How hard would it be for them to just start serving up 16/44.1 FLAC in addition to 16/44.1 MP3? Maybe an exclusive KS/WASAPI mode in the desktop app. That's all it would take for me to be a very happy camper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullguise Posted June 20 Report Share Posted June 20 ^^ Was just coming to post the same thing.....happy to see this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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