DefQon Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 Do you like the HE560's..measurements aside, Tyll?
Wmcmanus Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) I wouldn't be able to get past what I hear as a disturbingly uncontrolled mid-treble. Do you like the HE560's..measurements aside, Tyll? Seems to me that he answered that question. Suppose he may have liked a lot of other things about them, but not the kind of "like" that Tyll has in mind when he says that he really likes a pair of headphones (in a full scale review). Thus, his reluctance to do the review. Or at least that's the way I read it. Edited October 15, 2014 by Wmcmanus
HeadphoneAddict Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 Tyll, you could try Jerg's "Fazer" mod on the HE-560, which puts dampening on the magnet structure to kill reflections, or his "re-grill mod" to use a more open grill material and reduce back-waves. Personally I'm a big fan of the HE-560 myself, and find their more open, holographic, and 3D presentation to be very pleasurable. I have been switching back and forth between the stock cable and my Moon-Audio Silver Dragon balanced cable, and I like them either way. I may have more hearing loss than you, and so the treble doesn't bother me at all. On the other hand, I did hear a few IEM that sounded to bright at RMAF, until I shoved them as deep into my ears as I could to tame the treble, so I appear to be sensitive to bad treble at other times. I'm also a big fan of the HE-500 and LCD-2 rev2 which I think are on a similar level to each other, and greater than the LCD-2 rev1 or HE-5LE, but slightly behind the HE-560 and LCD-X. I have posted previously that the HE-6 treble is smoother and more refined, and with enough power on hand I might prefer the HE-6 the most. And when the HE-6 are underpowered a lot of people call them bright sounding.
ellevoid Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 I also don't like HE560, I think it is brighter than HE6 or even HD800 to my ear.
HeadphoneAddict Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 I can't agree with the brightness statements though. I walked around RMAF last weekend for two and a half days, sharing my HE-560 via HiFi-M8 DAC/amp and lossless music on iPhone 6 with dozens of people, and not one person complained about the sound in any way. Two gentlemen from Florida shared a table with me and my son for lunch on Saturday, and I let them try the HE-560. They went straight to the HiFiMan booth and tried to buy a pair, but Fang didn't have any for sale until the end of the day Sunday and these guys were leaving before then. The positive responses were universal. True, not everyone who liked them is going to actually buy them, but I'm pretty sure that I "sold" at least three HiFi-M8 and HE-560 after people tried my gear.
robm321 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 I also don't like HE560, I think it is brighter than HE6 or even HD800 to my ear. No.
blubliss Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 I thought the HE560 sucked when I heard them at a few meets, quite inferior to the HE-6 which I bought.
CarlSeibert Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 Tyll, I thought I heard a bit of a 10k 'bump' Is that in the ballpark of what you heard? They were "lighter" sounding than either of the Audezes or the HE 500, too. That, plus the 'bump' could come from what you're saying, but I didn't hear any lack of resolution - that I recognised- in the treble. Of course, I did say that they lacked "bite" . Hmmm. Maybe we were listening to the same headphones. It seems to me that certain music shows some faults and strengths while other music highlights other stuff. Choose too many pieces and you confuse yourself too the point of stupidity. Too few and..... forming an opinion from one listening session is a chancy affair. My personal bet is that the LCD-Xs will win out in my system just based on how the other components "lean". Or LCD 3s, maybe? I liked them in my system. You wouldn't by chance have measurements on these two phones, would you?
OldNewSound Posted November 5, 2014 Report Posted November 5, 2014 From my experience I can say that I didn't like the HE-560, almost no sub-bass response, this was the strong point of predecessor HE-500, but Hifiman almost cut this fantastic sub-bass response. Tonality is not great, is not a fast attack headphones and a little too warm (surprisingly) with some kind of music and of course overprice.
Leonardo Drummond Posted December 30, 2014 Author Report Posted December 30, 2014 New HiFiMAN headphones, HE-1000. So not an electrostatic successor to the Jade that many people were speculating, but a regular planar magnetic 'phone... and there's also a (very large) tube amp to go with it. Someone said it's going to cost significantly more than $2.500, though... They also anounced the RE1000 custom in-ear headphones made with Unique Melody and the HM-901S, a successor to the HM-901.
blubliss Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Nevermind Edited December 30, 2014 by blubliss 1
Iron_Dreamer Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 I imagine I should be able to try this stuff out next week at CES, will report back!
kevin gilmore Posted December 30, 2014 Report Posted December 30, 2014 there were some pictures posted over there on the inside of the amp 7 tubes and a whole pile of output transistors
ellevoid Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 New Hifiman HE1000 New Audeze EL-8 New Sennheiser .... Urbanite
justin Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 hey now...sennheiser told me that the big surprise is not a new momentum color and not a bluetooth headphone. but they said whatever it is it is big. 2
Leonardo Drummond Posted December 31, 2014 Author Report Posted December 31, 2014 hey now...sennheiser told me that the big surprise is not a new momentum color and not a bluetooth headphone. but they said whatever it is it is big. At CES? Now I'm curious... 1
DefQon Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 That new Hifiman headphones looks fucking ridiculous and puts the U in ugly, something you'd expect to find from your kitchen cupboards. I'm looking forward to reports of how they will fall apart when early adopters get there hands on them.
purk Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) hey now...sennheiser told me that the big surprise is not a new momentum color and not a bluetooth headphone. but they said whatever it is it is big. So an Orpheus II is for real? Would love to have a HD1100!! Edited December 31, 2014 by purk
Cucera Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 A friend told me he saw the two new Sennheiser sets allready, but as he is not a technical minded guy, he was not sure they are Electrostats but their prices are north of the old Orpheus.
purk Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 A friend told me he saw the two new Sennheiser sets allready, but as he is not a technical minded guy, he was not sure they are Electrostats but their prices are north of the old Orpheus. The current or the old price or the original price of the Orpheus?
justin Posted December 31, 2014 Report Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) So an Orpheus II is for real? Would love to have a HD1100!! they said it wasnt an electrostat. keep in mind though that - they will lie to me if they're supposed to lie - this is just the word of a regional sales rep i wont believe anything until i see it. the 'new Orpheus' thing surfaces every year with people who supposedly saw it or heard about it, and then nothing. Edited December 31, 2014 by justin
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