Pars Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I think most people are using the ON Semi parts. They released an EOL notice last fall that apparently their Korean packaging subcontractor would no longer do TO92s . Mouser still has some in stock, so I'd buy what you think you will need now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrindingThud Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) ^^ like he said.... I use these: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ON-Semiconductor/MPSA56RLRMG/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMshyDBzk1%2fWi%2fPUgtclNldl2ZkToUCMhk0%3d Edited March 25, 2015 by GrindingThud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earspeakers Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 On the KGST, dumb question but the schematic is out of date and it should be documented here, it's either the A1486 or the STN9360, correct? Not both. I soldered the 9360 already so it's hard to see the traces, but it looks like they're both connected so it should be one or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laowei Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Best to go by the PCB, as that is further developed from the schematic. And yes, it is either A1486 or STN9360. Not both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earspeakers Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Best to go by the PCB, as that is further developed from the schematic. And yes, it is either A1486 or STN9360. Not both. Any advantage to either? Other than having to solder surface mount STN9360, which is easy as long as you have paste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoaMat Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) / Edited November 11, 2015 by JoaMat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 The advantage is that the 2SA1486 is out of production and the 9360 isn't... At 350V rails the A1156 works perfectly. At 400V I'd use the 600V parts just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earspeakers Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Passed power supply smoke test. B+ and other supplies come up fine, except "Bias" has nothing on it. I see a reference here on this thread to a trimpot but it's not clear if that's on the PS or the ones on the amp boards. I don't have a trimpot on my power supply, but there is a mystery "1M three terminal spot near the output jack - is that for a 1M trim? It has a null symbol next to it (zero with a cross through it) which I took to mean no-op. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 This is a 1M Trimpot which needs to be populated. The crossed zero is the screw of the trimpot ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earspeakers Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) This is a 1M Trimpot which needs to be populated. The crossed zero is the screw of the trimpot ;-) Burp. Thanks. Speaking of which, what is the test point for, the bias? Edited March 29, 2015 by Earspeakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nopants Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 yes, because the output is taken after 4.7M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earspeakers Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Fortunately I have a workplace with a big lab stock that is supportive of home electronics projects (as long as you're learning something). Quick trip into work ... fixed. We have bias! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earspeakers Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Smoke test with amp sections, servo jumpers out. LED's no comma on, not good. Turned down variac, scratched head and found one channel had chassis wired +-15 backwards. Well, it's like a stage play, something has to go wrong. Easy fix and now it comes up with LED's. So today I'll adjust bias and such, double check me. Bias - test point on PSU, adjust 1M until 580V approximately Amp DC offset - Plug in jumper, use the two trim pots, fine and coarse, put DVM between + and - output pins on channel and adjust until approximately 0VDC between them (also - what is the jumper there for?) Then if all good, should be ready for test with headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoaMat Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) / Edited November 11, 2015 by JoaMat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earspeakers Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Are there fine and coarse trimmers for offset? Isn't one trimmer for offset and one for balance? Doh - my mistake. The way the chassis is, it's difficult to read the legend. Handy to have spare boards to compare to, yes one is balance and the other offset. So what is balance then (did a search but it's not clear)? From the mask looks like it is a resistor between two FET's, maybe source resistor. I'll take a guess, updated version for adjustment Adjust PS test point to 580V DC headphone bias Adjust each amp board Offset pot to give 0VDC between + and - Adjust each amp board Balance pot to give 0VDC from either + (or -) to ground Correct? Edited March 31, 2015 by Earspeakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laowei Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) With the jumper pulled deactivating the servo, power up the amp. First adjusting the Balance trimmer for close to 0VDC between + and - outputs. Then adjusting the Offset trimmer for close to 0VDC between either output to ground. Repeat in order several times. Let the amp run for a half hour or more. Remeasure and readjust as needed. Turn the amp off and replace the jumper after a few minutes. The circuit is so stable once set, I don't bother with the servo. YMMV. Edited March 31, 2015 by Laowei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earspeakers Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Great thanks Laowei! Even with the stability, why not use the servo? Seems like it can't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pars Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Some people claim they can hear servos. I'm not one of them. Since they normally operate well below 1Hz, and having the servo can protect you from bad things happening, I see no downside to using it, even if the circuit is stable without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeP Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Does anyone have any tips of desoldering board mounted Teflon tube sockets. Would like to use them somewhere else at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted March 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 a metcal soldering iron with the big tip. still its not going to be easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earspeakers Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Desoldering anything sucks, don't do it unless you have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nopants Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Does anyone have any tips of desoldering board mounted Teflon tube sockets. Would like to use them somewhere else at the moment. Tried to do something similar for a botched Megatron board I picked up, almost impossible with a normal tip. JoaMat said he had some sort of gun which he referenced when he was making the bootleg KGSiC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earspeakers Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Fired up! Sounds good, reeeeeeeeeel good. I get a hum at the top of the volume range, but I'm using a Hosa RCA to XLR converter plug and it's only with that plugged in. Pulled it's dead silent. Pulled out a cheap DAC with XLR output and it's dead silent, except near full bore there's a oddball slight noise that comes in at one channel and then travels to the other, then disappears at full volume. Odd, need to look into that. The gain seems a little low, compared to the 323. I've got just enough, maybe that was the intent to have the amp playing at the low end of the volume control. Wow, quite a delicious little amp. Compared to the Stax offerings there's far greater separation between instruments, each is more distinctly themselves. Presumably better separation between channels compared to the 323S. Edited April 1, 2015 by Earspeakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pars Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Does the Hosa RCA/XLR adapter short the L/R - signals to ground? On a differential input, those need to be grounded when going SE. I know Kevin recommended the Neutrik adapters for the multiamp, which do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earspeakers Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Does the Hosa RCA/XLR adapter short the L/R - signals to ground? On a differential input, those need to be grounded when going SE. I know Kevin recommended the Neutrik adapters for the multiamp, which do this. Good question, probably not. Pieces of crap I just bought for this. I'll get the Neutrik. Edit: This one I guess http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Neutrik/NA2MPMF/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMv0W4pxf2HiV9y0EyfHsAgRVcOPr0CUs0o%3d Damn this amp has a lot of bass control. Scary. Just listening with my test headphones (207) for a few days at least. I'll try a 404 next, my go-to headphone at the moment. It's a warmer amp than the 323S too I believe, but it might be the 207's that I haven't heard in a while. There's some muddy too which is the 207's, need to try some better headphones soon. Edited April 1, 2015 by Earspeakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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