n_maher Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 He died doing what he loved. Â [edit] I don't care.
skullguise Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 Sorry to see this life gone.....way too much talent and future. Â Sorry for family especially.....
postjack Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 Addiction kills. In particular fuck opiates. Love and will miss you.
Dusty Chalk Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 In Nate's defense (not that he needs it), he did say he had mixed feelings about it. And sorry, but so do I, I just didn't post about it, because I couldn't think of an eloquent way to say it. I'm explicitly not saying I don't care or I'm not surprised or anything like that, I just don't know what to say, because then I start thinking about other people in my life that are in the same boat, and start to feel bad about not doing anything about it, but then I have to remind myself that they have to want to get better and...yeah, what Nate said about the novel.
Wmcmanus Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Sorry, but it's true. Â "I sing the song because I love the man..." Edited February 3, 2014 by Wmcmanus
dsavitsk Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 Agree with Jacob. Â Everyone has pain, be it physical, emotional, or existential, and everyone does what they can to alleviate it. Every alleviation strategy has risks. Narcotics seem to be a poor choice for pain management, but then it is impossible to understand someone else's pain and what it might drive them to. I think the best we can do is hope that none of us are ever in such extraordinarily pain that something so risky seems like a viable option. 2
swt61 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 I understand the powerful addictive nature of a drug like heroin. What I don't understand is why someone would put it into their body for the first time, knowing what a powerful drug it is. Of coarse I have chosen to avoid most addictive substances in my life, because I thought early on that I might have an addictive nature, so admittedly I don't know much about it. Â Mr. Hoffman first really hit my radar in the remake of The Talented Mr. Ripley, and really became a brilliant actor in my mind in Flawless. I will miss his performances.
Dusty Chalk Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 Narcotics are an amazing choice for pain management.   Yeah, see, I don't get this. Referencing Doug's use of "Dukkha"/"pain", what you said may be true in the future, but I think currently there are too many unknowns and too many variables for me to safely feel comfortable saying that. They can be an amazing choice, but they can be an inherently worse choice, too. That's just not a risk I understand anyone willing to take. When I read science fiction novels like Richard K. Morgan where everyone takes drugs in the future to "fix" themselves, I laugh, because I know that is so far away. We're still in the dark ages. Sure, your own personal circumstances might be such that you've had a lot of good luck with them, but ... well, as a contrasting example, every time my mom took a new medicine...EVERY TIME...(alright, maybe not 100%, but >50%, and I am not exaggerating about that)...she exhibited at least one of the less likely side effects. And considering her blood runs in my veins...that's just not something I'm willing to even remotely deal with.  And really, heroin? You'd do heroin, other than it hasn't been available? Sorry, I'm not going to mince words -- that's fucked up.
Riotvan Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 The thing is with addiction there is usually not one cause short of someone walking up to you and stuffing a needle in your arm. Every person is different and so are their addiction's, sure there are similarities but everyone has their own causes and reasons. People just like to put labels on it so it's easier to judge and that happens with allot of things and i think it's fucking stupid. Put em in a box! Oh wait there are more who do that? Get a bigger box!  Anyway...  I've struggled with addiction for about 20 years and i have been clean for about 4.5 years now and the only reason i got clean was because i found the reason why i felt i needed it. If you have the willpower and motivation you can fight it but you can never truely win because the battle goes on till you die, i know i have to fight urges every single day but i know myself and my limitations and i found some ways to adapt or make it work for me. For example get addicted to good things. Like good sounding music, working out allot and generally keep yourself busy and be tired at the end of the day. Make your addiction work for you... Like the saying goes an idle mind is the devil's playground and that certainly is true in my case. 1
n_maher Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 ? Â I wrote something which might have caused more conversation and then decided I didn't care. Â Your second statement above, I admit, I find more than a little disturbing. Â
skullguise Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 I think it's a testament to how people feel about him as an actor, that has caused this discussion/debate. Â When I heard about it, my reaction was sorrow and some anger. Â Anger at drugs being the cause, and did it have to be that way.....anger at the loss/wasting of such a talent.....etc. Â
Dusty Chalk Posted February 4, 2014 Report Posted February 4, 2014 Criterion posted this on Facebook:
tjkurita Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Edit: I feel like I am intruding on the tribute to Philip Seymour Hoffman, but...    Ralph Kiner passed away today. A baseball legend, and an original broadcaster for the New York Mets. In addition to his baseball stats, his dating stats are off the charts:  Ralph with Liz Tayor:   Ralph with Janet Leigh:   Ralph with Esther Williams:  Edited February 6, 2014 by tjkurita 1
jp11801 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Loved Kiner's Korner post Met game show
blessingx Posted February 11, 2014 Report Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) R.I.P. Shirley Temple (1928-2014)http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/rip-shirley-temple-1928-2014-watch-a-50-minute-documentary-sag-life-achievement-award-presentation-20140211 Edited February 11, 2014 by blessingx
Voltron Posted February 11, 2014 Report Posted February 11, 2014 I hope the Good Ship Lollypop is taking her across the River Styx. RIP Ms. Temple Black
Wmcmanus Posted February 12, 2014 Author Report Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Sid Caesar dead at 91. RIP  I just saw that too.  RIP.http://www.thewrap.com/sid-caesar-pioneer-american-comedy-dead-91/  Perhaps this skit was a precursor to Hogan's Heros? Edited February 12, 2014 by Wmcmanus
skullguise Posted February 13, 2014 Report Posted February 13, 2014 X3. RIP to a very creative and funny man
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