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Those were my first headphones, bought new in 1974. I got rid of them at some stage. But during a rush of blood to the head, I bought a pair from eBay for not much. The fluid filled earcups were as hard as biscuit, and the foam damping in the cup has turned to tar. Lots of clean up and fabric/foam pads later, I suddenly remembered how god awful uncomfortable they were/are. You head feels as if it being crushed in a vice, and the top of your head is almost bruised by the weight.

I would not have cared so much if the SQ was great. But it isn't either.

How Koss sold these things defeats me.

Koss remanufactured them for a while, but seems that they have stopped. 

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I also bought a pair of ESP6's again back in the day. Sound quality was great, but each cup had an energizing transformer in it. So the weight was again head crushing.

I got rid of those at some point.

But a rush of similar blood, I bought a pair of ESP9's. Tarry goop in the cups etc. But at least they come with an external energizer, so the weight is manageable. Sound quality is great. Still not at the heights of my two Stax systems, but pleasing non the less.

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42 minutes ago, Craig Sawyers said:

Those were my first headphones, bought new in 1974. I got rid of them at some stage. But during a rush of blood to the head, I bought a pair from eBay for not much. The fluid filled earcups were as hard as biscuit, and the foam damping in the cup has turned to tar. Lots of clean up and fabric/foam pads later, I suddenly remembered how god awful uncomfortable they were/are. You head feels as if it being crushed in a vice, and the top of your head is almost bruised by the weight.

I would not have cared so much if the SQ was great. But it isn't either.

How Koss sold these things defeats me.

Koss remanufactured them for a while, but seems that they have stopped. 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has that opinion. Mine received new drivers and pads at an official Koss center about 6 or 7 years ago.

Their "ergonomics" are exactly as you describe... it's like having a vice clamped on your head. I've never been able to spend much time with them on.

 

PD sorry offtopic 

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