tkam Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I decided a while ago that I wanted to get a small pc to use with my headphone rig and also as an HTPC for watching the occasional movie on. My recent acquisition of a new dac, the Auralic Vega and it's ability to do hi-rez pcm and dsd over usb made this more of a priority. Now normally I'd just go ahead and build something like this myself as I've built well over 100 desktops/servers over the years. After considering that I didn't want to spend my time dealing the tight spaces of really small cases I decided to buy something fully assembled. Naturally I did keep a close eye on parts cost vs cost of the assembled system, if the difference was high enough I'd just build it myself. After doing quite a bit of research I settled on the Echo II from Puget Systems. It's small enough for my needs, has enough room for the components I wanted and is dead silent. The price was also pretty fair, only about $200 or so more than if I had built it myself. Here's the final spec list: Case : Antec ISK 310-150 MB : Asus H87I-Plus CPU: Intel Core i5-4570S Memory: 8GB Storage: Samsung 840 Pro 128GB SSD (OS Drive) and Western Digital Scorpio Blue 1TB CD/DVD: LG Slim 6X Blu-ray burner Onboard video HSF: Zalman CNPS8900 (silent cooler) I've dealt with a lot of computer companies in my lifetime and I have to put Puget right up there with the best of them. The order process was simple and the build process was very fast. I put my order in on a Friday and it was shipped the following Tuesday. Probably the most surprising to me was their order status page. It's by far the most detailed order status I've ever seen for a pc or well any product really. I could spend all day explaining it but it's easier to just show you. See the attached PDF for full details. I do want to highlight a few parts of the build process that impressed me. First, my build was coming without any OS since I have plenty of Windows copies around. Now despite this, they still go through the process of doing a temporary OS install to run all the benchmarks and tests the results of which are uploaded to your account page for you to see and download. Second, they take photos of not only the system (including thermal images at idle and fulll load) but also take a screenshot of every bios screen so you can have a reference for what settings they are using. I probably sound like a bit of raging fanboy but it's rare to deal with a company that puts this much effort and level of detail into a pc build. It was a very refreshing experience and oh yeah the pc works great so far. It's more than powerful enough and really is dead silent. I can only hear it if I put my ear right up against the power supply fan. puget-order.pdf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blubliss Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 This is a really great post, thank you. I build myself too but knowing about places like this may change my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwzhan Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 wow. That is a tight build nicely done and the order status page looks awesome. They even have names displayed. I just finished building my new computer, so I probably won't need another one soon, but now I know where I'll recommend people to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 That is pretty cool, thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanDragon Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Needs i7 and 32 gigs of ram, but you can always upgrade when it struggles with your MP3z. Nice starter rig, Todd. I wonder if Colin will find this thread... **BRENT** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Nice, Todd. I've mostly sated my needs for an HTPC with the PS3 but still waffle occassionally. The problem is that one of my biggest gripes with PS3 (network connectivity) would probably persist with the HTPC given the remoteness of its location and the lack of ability to hard wire it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Nate, is a powerline based network out of the question? I really like mine. It let me put in a second wifi hotspot very easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebby Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) Nate, I'm guessing you've tried the various high powered wifi AP units? Ubiquity has a couple good units for that purpose. Edited August 15, 2013 by Nebby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkam Posted August 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Nate, you could fix the problem for a HTPC by going to 802.11ac it offers a pretty big increase in range compared to 802.11n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwood Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 An HTPC using server/client software (like Plex) can buffer much better than the PS3, taking advantage of all the bandwidth you can get when you can get it. Even if you don't change your network setup, it would help solve streaming problems. That's predicated on local content, however. Aside from adding a really excellent network card, there's not much you can do for Netflix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwood Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Also, Todd, that's a sweet machine. I built a few HTPCs and none so good as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nopants Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I'm also in the market for an htpc-ish build, I repurposed/recased my old desktop as a file server and I'd like to get a totally passive build going as a client > dac type deal. Did puget sound do anything special as far as vibration damping/throttling is concerned? I've read on anandtech that they take such measures for their desktop lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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