Sherwood Posted June 26, 2013 Report Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) A great quote: "Designed from the ground up, every aspect of the Cardas EM5813 Ear Speakers is built to mirror the human hearing system. Cardas Ear Speakers are efficient, natural, musical, and are the result of years of meticulous design by George Cardas." I wish they would have just been honest and talk about who OEM'ed these. I don't want George Cardas learning IEM design for these things -- what would lead me believe he would get it right the first time? Edited June 26, 2013 by Sherwood Quote
n_maher Posted June 26, 2013 Report Posted June 26, 2013 Hopefully Tyll will get a set of these to circulate through the IF framily for impressions. They're probably late enough to the game that they're going to have a hard time competing unless it's a pretty spectacular debut at a low price point. Quote
VPI Posted June 26, 2013 Report Posted June 26, 2013 Looks like the ones Tyll had at RMAF a couple of years ago when he introduced us to someone from Cardas that was showing them off. Sounded decent to me. I wouldn't be able to compare them to their competitors as I have not listened to many universals in a while but I would be happy with what I heard in Colorado. Quote
Audiojunkie Posted June 26, 2013 Report Posted June 26, 2013 Measurements are on Headroom: http://www.headphone.com/headphones/cardas-em5813-ear-speakers-model-1.php I agree with Headphoneaddict...."meh" Quote
Voltron Posted June 26, 2013 Report Posted June 26, 2013 Looks like the ones Tyll had at RMAF a couple of years ago when he introduced us to someone from Cardas that was showing them off. Sounded decent to me. I wouldn't be able to compare them to their competitors as I have not listened to many universals in a while but I would be happy with what I heard in Colorado. I was remembering that sample also, and it was fine but not earth shattering, but it has been so long that they've probably finger-fucked them to death. My thought is that Cardas has such a recognizable name in audio that non-headphone-audiophiles will pick them on that basis. Quote
Tyll Hertsens Posted June 26, 2013 Report Posted June 26, 2013 Hopefully Tyll will get a set of these to circulate through the IF framily for impressions. They're already off to Joker for consideration. The best iteration of these I heard were at RMAF a couple of years ago. The current ones aren't quite as good to my ears, but decent. My biggest gripe is that I don't think George has really understood how and why people need headphones. It's strongly based on ergonomics. Unfortunately the EM5813 is not ergonomically correct for what IEMs are typically designed to do. The 5813 is heavy; comes with only two ear-tips both the same size (one has a hole in it to tune the bass lower), and both too big for me; they're heavy; they don't isolate particularly well; and the cables are too thick and heavy. Basically they're not very useful for what most want IEMs for. If, however, you just want to use them at your desk, I'd say they're okay...but then why not use a regular over-ear headphone. I wish they would have just been honest and talk about who OEM'ed these. I don't want George Cardas learning IEM design for these things -- what would lead me believe he would get it right the first time? No, George really did design these from the ground up, as best as I can tell. Quote
Sherwood Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 No, George really did design these from the ground up, as best as I can tell. That is surprising. All the better, then, as I don't need anything else in my home based on the golden ratio. Quote
n_maher Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 Well, based on the information posted in this thread color me seriously uninterested. Quote
Salt Peanuts Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 I saw ear speakers without really looking at the thread title and got little excited that k1000 was being resurrected. Quote
skullguise Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 Well, based on the information posted in this thread color me seriously uninterested. x2. I have found that I like his cables a lot, though at used prices only. He/they should stick to that IMO. Quote
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