swt61 Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 Love that show. And anything that shows Gordon Ramsey in pain makes me happy. On 4/13/2024 at 9:13 AM, Grahame said: "I'm Fine" Compare with
Grahame Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, swt61 said: Love that show. And anything that shows Gordon Ramsey in pain makes me happy. 1
Craig Sawyers Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 Thing with Ramsey is that he is a very serious chef. His main restaurant (Restaurant Gordon Ramsey) has three Michelin Stars. His "persona" in the various shows he does is just that - a persona. I'll bet that the three star kitchen he has is calm. The chef team cannot cook at that level if the main guy in the kitchen is yelling at people. In Le Manoir au Quat'saisons, Raymond Blanc's three star restaurant, it is very definitely calm. The first time we went there, it was a mate's significant birthday. Now he trained as a chef, so I had a quiet word, and organised a kitchen tour for him. They had just spent a quarter million refitting the kitchen. And there were the same number of chefs in the kitchen as there were diners. And that is why it costs loadsa money to eat there. It will be the same in Ramsey's three star. Calm. 1
dsavitsk Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 31 minutes ago, Craig Sawyers said: Thing with Ramsey is that he is a very serious chef. 3
swt61 Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 37 minutes ago, Craig Sawyers said: Thing with Ramsey is that he is a very serious chef. His main restaurant (Restaurant Gordon Ramsey) has three Michelin Stars. His "persona" in the various shows he does is just that - a persona. I'll bet that the three star kitchen he has is calm. The chef team cannot cook at that level if the main guy in the kitchen is yelling at people. In Le Manoir au Quat'saisons, Raymond Blanc's three star restaurant, it is very definitely calm. The first time we went there, it was a mate's significant birthday. Now he trained as a chef, so I had a quiet word, and organised a kitchen tour for him. They had just spent a quarter million refitting the kitchen. And there were the same number of chefs in the kitchen as there were diners. And that is why it costs loadsa money to eat there. It will be the same in Ramsey's three star. Calm. That's most of my issue with him. If he's not an over the top, confrontational guy in the real world, then don't pretend to be one in the media. It's the very reason that I think most reality TV is anything but, and generally an insult to one's intelligence. And if he really does have the personality that he displays, then he's a disrespectful asshole. Either way that persona does him no good in my mind. I feel only contempt for him. The bigger picture is that we're telling people that being kind and being reasonable is a loosing way of life. Reality TV has caused immense damage in that respect IMO.
Dusty Chalk Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 6 hours ago, dsavitsk said: Or as a friend of mine put it, many decades ago, after telling me a story about a fellow retailer who said he hated the business, but a decade later, he looked like he really loved it. After being asked, he replied sincerely that he did. "Temporary becomes permanent." Then he told me another story about another retailer who always brought his "cousin" to the shows, that was really his mistress.
Sherwood Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 The only real footage I've seen of Ramsay cooking in a purely professional setting was when he was under Marco Pierre White, who was by all accounts a holy terror. I would not be surprised to find out Ramsay can really lose his temper in the kitchen, what luck then that people seem to enjoy paying to watch him do it. I've been a consumer of his content for years, off and on, and there is a clear progression from his earliest British programs like "The F Word" to today. He gets louder, sure, but he also seems to get a little less mean. I think the mean streak might be the real guy and he is softening in his old age. I don't begrudge him his success, the best meal I've ever had was at Gordon Ramsay at Claridge's, but I would certainly avoid working for him. It seems young chefs who want to some day hold their own Michelin stars are willing to put up with anything to get access to training and opportunity. I hope the culture of machismo and self destruction in kitchens is changing. Rene Redzeppi spent years at the absolute top of the world and he has been public about how much therapy it took him to overcome the aggression and violence he developed coming up in haute cuisine. I'd like to see more of that, even if it means fewer compelling FX shows detailing severe dysfunction.
Craig Sawyers Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 Indeed. From https://www.mylondon.news/whats-on/whats-on-news/outrageous-life-notorious-chef-marco-21602394 "Allegedly, Marco even once made Gordon Ramsay - renowned for being a tough chef who regularly causes jaws to drop on shows like Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares - break down in tears. Australia's news.com.au reports Marco trained Gordon at his restaurant Harvey's, and "exposed [him] to daily rituals of humiliation, foul language, flying knives and almost unbearable pressure," according to a 2006 profile in The Telegraph. Marco said: "I can’t remember what it was about, but I yelled at him and he lost it. The next thing I knew he was sobbing in the corner, holding his head in his hands, with tears rolling down his cheeks. "He was saying things like, 'I don’t care what you do to me. Hit me. I don’t care'." The problem is that the bullied and humiliated become the bullier and humiliator. I've had two bosses who fell into that category, alas (Both now safely dead). The poet Philip Larkin wrote a bleak poem called "This be the Verse" that describes this sort of process: They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were fucked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another’s throats. Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don’t have any kids yourself. 4 1
Knuckledragger Posted April 17 Author Report Posted April 17 The Chinaman made some crazy drills here, Dude. Also, "Chinaman" is not the preferred nomenclature...
Dusty Chalk Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 On 4/21/2024 at 2:24 AM, robm321 said: Someone needs to share that with Linus' Tech Tips. 1 1
Knuckledragger Posted April 27 Author Report Posted April 27 Whoa mama. BMW 1602 converted to EV. I know these things pose all sorts of safety concerns (pedestrian killing front end, tiny pillar, etc.) but ...just don't care. Modern cars are so seriously fug I hate more or less all of them. The '02 series BMWs are among the best in 70s car design. Video on the above. Unfortunately, Blimey McSideburns is in dire need of a lavalier mic and lacks one. 4
mikeymad Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 I have not - but I am sure I have tasted it... way too sure... 2
swt61 Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 (edited) I think it's a fake. It's probably Charlie Sheen's piss. After all it's not that big a leap from tiger blood to panther piss. Edited May 2 by swt61
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