johnwmclean Posted June 15, 2013 Report Posted June 15, 2013 I just recently acquired a BHSE, impulse purchase, but me thinks a very good one. The amp comes with JJ EL34's, should I leave it at that or is there anything to gain from other exotic tube choices? Being a hybrid I guessing tube choice is not as critical, but the hype train over on HF have me second guessing.
spritzer Posted June 15, 2013 Report Posted June 15, 2013 Being grounded grid and with fixed operating points the tubes are less of a factor but their construction still matters. I'm vary of the Psvane tubes given the quality issues of other Shuguang models which is why I still recommend the SED's. Same sturdy build quality as the late Mullard tubes which is also why they are expensive.
Voltron Posted June 15, 2013 Report Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) You wonks can say that the tubes shouldn't matter in the BHSE, but my experience is that they do matter in the BHSE. I started with the stock new production Mullard EL34s (I think that they were Mullard), and was not in love with the sound because that is how I always heard the amp. Then I bought some NOS xf2 Mullards and I have since loved my amp. Voodoo, mind games, placebo, whatever. I am not an exotic tube nut but this combo works for me (and others). Edited June 15, 2013 by Voltron
tkam Posted June 15, 2013 Report Posted June 15, 2013 I'm vary of the Psvane tubes given the quality issues of other Shuguang models which is why I still recommend the SED's. Same sturdy build quality as the late Mullard tubes which is also why they are expensive.We'll find out soon enough I have a quad on the way. 1
blubliss Posted June 15, 2013 Report Posted June 15, 2013 You wonks can say that the tubes shouldn't matter in the BHSE, but my experience is that they do matter in the BHSE. I started with the stock new production Mullard EL34s (I think that they were Mullard), and was not in love with the sound because that is how I always heard the amp. Then I bought some NOS xf2 Mullards and I have since loved my amp. Voodoo, mind games, placebo, whatever. I am not an exotic tube nut but this combo works for me (and others). This is my experience too, definitely hear some change. I went a bit overboard buying 24 metal base tubes but it was an investment . Thing is, I paid a lot. Anyone wanna buy a $1600 quad of EL34 metal base....
spritzer Posted June 15, 2013 Report Posted June 15, 2013 They do matter but not as much as you'd get with a more basic amp. I always run XF2's but use SED's for testing. Good news on the tubes Todd.
blubliss Posted June 15, 2013 Report Posted June 15, 2013 The 6DJ8s make more of a difference in the T2 for sure.
eggil Posted June 16, 2013 Report Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) Does anybody have any BH boards they would like to get rid of? I am thinking on building one, since the Megatron project appears to have slowed down. Edited June 17, 2013 by eggil
johnwmclean Posted June 18, 2013 Report Posted June 18, 2013 ...and I thought there wasn’t going to be much more juice to squeeze out of the 007 MK1s after the KGSSHV. I’ve been having perpetual “holy shit” moments for days now, gotta love the honeymoon faze. Right now with the JJs I’m loving it, I live with these for a while and see how I go for tubes. Thanks for the recommendations... Now heres a little amp porn from my listening chair...
spritzer Posted June 18, 2013 Report Posted June 18, 2013 There is something truly special about them Blue Hawaii's...
johnwmclean Posted June 19, 2013 Report Posted June 19, 2013 Nattonrice's "old" rig - sexy! Toms all T2ed up... I was very happy to take this of his hands, poor guys just inundated with amps.
purk Posted June 22, 2013 Report Posted June 22, 2013 Super nice price you got though. That gotta go be the cheapest BH in awhile. Great purchase!
johnwmclean Posted June 22, 2013 Report Posted June 22, 2013 Yeah it was pretty much a no brainer deal couldn’t have pm’d him fast enough when I discovered the thread (thanks to wink). Knowing that it was a Tom Booker (nattonrice) build meant a lot, he’s a good friend and an excellent diyer.
johnwmclean Posted July 26, 2013 Report Posted July 26, 2013 So I gave in and bought a quad of Psvanes EL34PHs, I’m impressed so far, I can tell a clear difference (better) than the JJs I was using. The quality of the tubes looks good to my untrained eye, although when installing them I did notice that two had a slight rattle when shook (gently), felt like the filament was loose or something, is this normal an expected trait for an EL34? From memory some 300Bs had a similar trait.
wink Posted July 27, 2013 Report Posted July 27, 2013 You don't get rattles with silicon...... just rattled. 1
spritzer Posted July 27, 2013 Report Posted July 27, 2013 Some of the modern tubes do rattle a bit but they really shouldn't. Shaving down the materials used is the best way to make money on tubes these days.
nattonrice Posted July 28, 2013 Report Posted July 28, 2013 Granted, they don't roll off a fancy German assembly line, but I've been shocked at the shitty internals on *some* modern production tubes. I guess we should be thankful there's still a market at all?
Dusty Chalk Posted July 28, 2013 Report Posted July 28, 2013 I certainly am. Fucking hoarders are fucking up the NOS market.
spritzer Posted July 28, 2013 Report Posted July 28, 2013 There is a huge market for tubes and it is growing larger by the year. I really don't see ECC83's and EL34's ever going out of production unless people stop liking guitars. That said, some of the production values are piss poor and for me the worst offenders have always been Shuguang and New Sensor.
wink Posted July 28, 2013 Report Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) Bring back Mullards. (or is that mallards- I'd better duck for cover). Edited July 28, 2013 by wink
justin Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Trying to get the packaging as efficient as possible, i designed these new end caps and had my helper cut/glue them. The tubes can go under the amp in foam. Now if i can find a place for the cable besides the top of the amp, i can cut off another inchVs original boxSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
n3rdling Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Cut two notches in the middle foam "pole" on one side and wrap the cable around them in an oval (vertically).
justin Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 just found the actual weight is now 5lb above the dimensional weight (previously dimensional weight was 9lb over actual weight), so unless i want to remove tiny bits of foam weight, seems there's not much advantage to going any smaller
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