spritzer Posted April 21, 2012 Report Posted April 21, 2012 I'd really love to know where all these free headphones are I'm supposed to be getting as I am having trouble finding them. Ohh that's what they were. Sorry but they were all sent here but thrown into the nearest lava pit as they didn't have a 5 pin headphone plug...
guzziguy Posted April 21, 2012 Report Posted April 21, 2012 nice anonymous throw away account. You forgot the adjective "cowardly".
morphsci Posted April 21, 2012 Report Posted April 21, 2012 Measurements do not guarantee either an objective or scientific approach.
The Monkey Posted April 21, 2012 Report Posted April 21, 2012 It strikes me that there are a lot of people who want to start at the "top" of the hobby, but don't want to take the time to save, audition, learn, etc. Instead, they want something cheap that they can say,"it's just as good as your fancy pants thing, you elitist swine." My point being, this seems more about the insecurity of a few than an actual exercise in good engineering. Perhaps this thing is good. If it is, I'm all for it. Cheap and good is good. But the thinly-guised classist rhetoric is tired and silly. Plus, it is very odd that this guy has yet to reveal his identity.
acidbasement Posted April 21, 2012 Report Posted April 21, 2012 Cheap and good is good. But the thinly-guised classist rhetoric is tired and silly. Plus, it is very odd that this guy has yet to reveal his identity. You've hit it on the head.
roadtonowhere08 Posted April 21, 2012 Report Posted April 21, 2012 Yeah, this was discussed on the HRM forum. I really love that place for some of the great vinyl rips, but Doc really should have kept the forums closed. If you are a member there, I am sure you know what I mean. Audio fans really are a gullible bunch overall.
luvdunhill Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) He can rant all he wants to about RMAA, but used properly, it isn't worthless. I'd side with the douche on this one. RMAA is worthless if you're looking for absolute measurements. Relative measurements, like most of us use to iteratively improve designs it's decent. Since he is all about extremely low distortion numbers et all, you know that he is going to rip nelson a new one, because most of his amps are in the .05% to .1% thd range. agreed. That's the "cost" of minimal part designs I guess. In my opinion, this trade-off makes Charles Hansen's designs impressive, as not relying on global feedback and getting the numbers he does is a lot of work. Edited April 22, 2012 by luvdunhill
roadtonowhere08 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 luvdunhill, I think you have me mixed up with Pars on that quote.
kevin gilmore Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 rmaa is not the problem, it is the people who use it, especially with 16 bit sound cards, then don't set the levels correctly. If you have an 18 bit or better a/d and you set the input level at -3db, then adjust the gain of the amplifier under test to the equivalent -3db, then the numbers are at least close to equipment that sets the gain automatically. But if you set the levels at -10db or worse, on a 14 bit a/d, then you get silly readings.
livewire Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Fired up my new Odac yesterday. Best $100 DAC I've lstened to, it puts many $300 to $500 DACs to shame. Well worth the price of admission....
RudeWolf Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Got any specific examples? Pico, Dacport LX, HRT products?
morphsci Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Fired up my new Odac yesterday. Best $100 DAC I've lstened to, it puts many $300 to $500 DACs to shame. Well worth the price of admission.... This impression puts many HF threads to shame ...... in terms of inaneness.
Filburt Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 The impression compares substantially to a notable quantity of reviews I've seen on many sites.
roadtonowhere08 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Posted May 30, 2012 Fired up my new Odac yesterday. Best $100 DAC I've lstened to, it puts many $300 to $500 DACs to shame. Well worth the price of admission.... You know NwAvGuy got his nuts roasted over stuff like this, don't you?
livewire Posted May 31, 2012 Report Posted May 31, 2012 I dont give a fuck about NwAvGuy or his roasted nuts. I'll spare you the tl;dr page long "impressions". My only motivation is to find a cheap good sounding source. No harm in that. Hmmm, my scrotum is beginning to feel "toasty"....
Filburt Posted May 31, 2012 Report Posted May 31, 2012 I dont give a fuck about NwAvGuy or his roasted nuts. I'll spare you the tl;dr page long "impressions". My only motivation is to find a cheap good sounding source. No harm in that. Hmmm, my scrotum is beginning to feel "toasty".... What the review lacked in detail it made up for in vagueness.
roadtonowhere08 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) I dont give a fuck about NwAvGuy or his roasted nuts. I'll spare you the tl;dr page long "impressions". My only motivation is to find a cheap good sounding source. No harm in that. Hmmm, my scrotum is beginning to feel "toasty".... How about you spare us with your thoughts on this subject altogether? Most here could give a rat's ass about a post of complete nothingness such as yours. I edited this post to add a line between your quote and my statement. Even that had more substance than your first post. Edited May 31, 2012 by roadtonowhere08
ecclesand Posted May 31, 2012 Report Posted May 31, 2012 My only motivation is to find a cheap good sounding source. No harm in that. I must admit I'm interested. For $100 it seems like a good gamble regardless of other's impressions (or lack thereof).
grawk Posted May 31, 2012 Report Posted May 31, 2012 It could be the greatest dac ever and I'm not giving my money to that douchebag
roadtonowhere08 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Posted May 31, 2012 It could be the greatest dac ever and I'm not giving my money to that douchebag Amen. Crusaders like that idiot are a self-righteous bunch who get turned on by the text that they write.
RudeWolf Posted May 31, 2012 Report Posted May 31, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logorrhea_(psychology)
vvs_75 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Posted May 31, 2012 I just don't get at all what is the hype about. A $100 DAC in parts should sound like a $300+ DAC, that’s about how much commercial equivalent DAC would cost. If you invested $100 in parts and it sound like $100 then you been ripped off badly
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