TMoney Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 If you are asking me about the mod, then no, I haven't played around with the mod yet. I've been meaning to try it.
recstar24 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 I can't believe I'm tempted to try the 800 again. Im not sure if it's more due to my amp or tyll's magic, but it's fucking brilliant.
swt61 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 Tyll, loved the Fidelio L1, you were right on the money. I will pick one up as soon as they become more readily available. Sounded great driven by the Mini³ in my DAC.
Tyll Hertsens Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 Actooly, I think I said I loved the Citiscape Downtown, and thought the L1 was very good. I always try to factor in price. I think it was the girl in the video that said I loved it ... course I may have fallen into the "early on and impressed" mode and made a post somewhere. I think it's a very nicely styled gentleman's headphone with good, "upper mid-fi" sound but not really good resolution and clarity. It's good value for money though, I don't think there's much better in a $249 open can, but it's not up to "audiophile" level, I don't think.
blessingx Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 I can't believe I'm tempted to try the 800 again. Join the club that was lured back.
deepak Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 I can't believe I'm tempted to try the 800 again. Dinny what you want is an HD600 and a SUSE Dynamite. It will sound real good minus the blownout soundstage and piercing treble. Jeff has Colin being his builder lackey, with some lawyer persuasion I think you could rope him in as well.
guzziguy Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 Tyll, what amp were you using for your listening tests of the HD800?
Tyll Hertsens Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 I was using a HeadRoom Ultra DAC and the Burson amp, also my Ultra Desktop stuff. Not reference but good. I tell you though, that mod does wonders. It just makes the 800 sound transparent. Ask Ryan.
guzziguy Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) While I'm "Extreme"ly happy with my HD800, I'll be happy to give it a try. I'm assuming that since you tried many different materials and thicknesses, that the mod is easily reversible? Otherwise, you went though a lot of pairs of HD800s. Edit: Actually, I'm "Menace"ly happy, though "Lite"ly. Edited March 11, 2012 by guzziguy
The Monkey Posted March 11, 2012 Report Posted March 11, 2012 Dinny what you want is an HD600 and a SUSE Dynamite. It will sound real good minus the blownout soundstage and piercing treble. Jeff has Colin being his builder lackey, with some lawyer persuasion I think you could rope him in as well. For some reason that reminds me of something--are you looking for HD 580 parts?
deepak Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 For some reason that reminds me of something--are you looking for HD 580 parts? I do need an HD580 headband
Maxvla Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 I think it's a very nicely styled gentleman's headphone with good, "upper mid-fi" sound but not really good resolution and clarity. It's good value for money though, I don't think there's much better in a $249 open can, but it's not up to "audiophile" level, I don't think. Right on the money, matching my impressions.
Pars Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 Dinny what you want is an HD600 and a SUSE Dynamite. It will sound real good minus the blownout soundstage and piercing treble. Jeff has Colin being his builder lackey, with some lawyer persuasion I think you could rope him in as well. What is a SUSE Dynamite?
deepak Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 What is a SUSE Dynamite? Sorry the acronym was susy (super symmetrical). I think KG has said it sounds slightly better than the original Dynamite
The Monkey Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 I do need an HD580 headband I have a broken 580 that may be of use to you. I'll check.
deepak Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 I have a broken 580 that may be of use to you. I'll check. Thanks
n_maher Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 At some point I'd like to hear a modded 800 but I doubt that it'd get me to buy another pair of Senns. Sure, they're technically better than the Grados that I own but at this point I'm in it for the fun of the listen and the HF2's provide plenty of fun. Someday I'll get the stax rig back up and running and that should cover the accuracy portion of the equation. Dinny, Just enjoy the beautiful, beautiful music.
skullguise Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 ^^^ This. No need for me to go back to Senn's again (other than my 280's which I use for better isolation). Two Stax systems at home negate the need for Senn's anymore.......
acidbasement Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 I just got back from vacation to find a 1984 Sony D-5A portable cdp waiting for me in the mail. Plugging my HD600s into it, I think I may be able to put off the amp upgrade bug for awhile. It's sounding great to me, and the saved money is going in the speaker jar.
guzziguy Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 At some point I'd like to hear a modded 800 but I doubt that it'd get me to buy another pair of Senns. Sure, they're technically better than the Grados that I own but at this point I'm in it for the fun of the listen and the HF2's provide plenty of fun. Someday I'll get the stax rig back up and running and that should cover the accuracy portion of the equation. Dinny, Just enjoy the beautiful, beautiful music. I love my HD800, but definitely want to hear a modded version. So I'll try the mod on mine. I like my HF2 a lot too, but not as much as the HD800 and the HF2 is not near as comfortable either. Maybe you need to hear it out of a good amp? Your advice to Dinny is spot on.
rhythmdevils Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 IMO the power you feed them has to do with the presence of resonances and the lack of balance. The resonance in the LCD-2 seems to vary in severity between units, but it's not power or amp related. I heard terrible resonance/reverb (and might have heard veil too if the reverb hadn't kept me from listening to them) in my LCD-2 and yet have heard nothing like that in any other orthos, not even the 1979 Fostex T50, which has a driver of similar construction and similar size to the LCD-2, and yet is much harder to drive. I've heard a lot of orthos on this gear and never heard anything like that resonance/reverb except when experimenting with damping schemes and enclosures that did not work or were not ideal. I didn't even hear anything like that when I plugged the HE6 prototype (harder to drive than the production HE6) directly into an ipod. It's coming from the driver, pads, damping or enclosure. Unless you think the LCD-2 has amp requirements that are unique among planar magnetics?
spritzer Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 Unless you think the LCD-2 has amp requirements that are unique among planar magnetics? I thought this was given in the same fashion as some Stax models have a midrange resonance while others don't using pretty much identical drivers. Being harder/easier to drive means nothing in this regard.
rhythmdevils Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 I know people (not people with "crap hearing" ) who have heard the resonance on the Apex Peak and Gilmore amps among others. I heard them at a meet on the Apex but it was too loud to hear much more than "bass- check!, mirange- check!, treble- check!"
swt61 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Posted March 12, 2012 Actooly, I think I said I loved the Citiscape Downtown, and thought the L1 was very good. I always try to factor in price. I think it was the girl in the video that said I loved it ... course I may have fallen into the "early on and impressed" mode and made a post somewhere. I think it's a very nicely styled gentleman's headphone with good, "upper mid-fi" sound but not really good resolution and clarity. It's good value for money though, I don't think there's much better in a $249 open can, but it's not up to "audiophile" level, I don't think. I guess I should have prefaced by saying that I'm in the market for a more portable headphone. Nothing other than a good stat rig would pull me away from the K1000 at home. Now I'm curious about the Citiscape Downtown. They're even smaller and of coarse quite a bit cheaper. I guess I should try to audition the Creative Aurvana as well.
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