justin Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 you're just seeing the extra samples Quote
bhjazz Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 "Yeah, I did that one myself. Pretty cool, eh?" - Neil Young Quote
TMoney Posted January 29, 2015 Report Posted January 29, 2015 Yahoo hates it too. https://www.yahoo.com/tech/it-was-one-of-kickstarters-most-successful-109496883039.html This thing is going to be a complete flop. Quote
grawk Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 It may or may not be any good, I don't really care, but yahoo isn't a marker of anything anymore. 1 Quote
CraigBuckingham Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 Looks like a shit load compression to me. If the 20 second lead in is compared, very slight increase in amplitude, almost nothing. The main content after 20 seconds is compressed to high heaven. The modern compression sickness that's like the bubonic plague. Gotta keep the main demographic (and profit group) happy, kids walking around in noisy environments with portables. Pono player, well it's going to maybe sound better than other portables, but it's never going to be pro or hi-end. It's full of op-amps, feedback and no class A and no class full stop. Quote
Hopstretch Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 It may or may not be any good, I don't really care, but yahoo isn't a marker of anything anymore. Futility? Irrelevance? Obdurate cluelessness? Quote
TMoney Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 yahoo isn't a marker of anything anymore. While I agree with you that Yahoo in general is increasingly irrelevant, many of the individual writers (in this case Pogue) are still very widely read. Quote
morphsci Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 Widely read is not equal to relevant Quote
CraigBuckingham Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Just read the Yahoo review. It's no surprise that an iPhone may sound better than a Pono. Most analogue design by big corporations, if you can call using a semiconductor manufacturer's application notes "design", these days usually only sounds good by accident. I have a box full of earphones, some $99 Philips ones in there also with all the bragging rights from the marketing gurus, with a set of earphones that came with a $60 Sagem FM radio with no bragging rights that blows them all into the weeds. It is with great trepidation that I buy headphones, earphones, speakers based on price. With speaker it's usually better to build a set. Edited January 31, 2015 by CraigBuckingham Quote
morphsci Posted January 31, 2015 Report Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) While I agree with you that Yahoo in general is increasingly irrelevant, many of the individual writers (in this case Pogue) are still very widely read. Widely read is not equal to relevant No shit. Hmmm .... Then I guess a post implying such is what? Just fucking stupid? Edited January 31, 2015 by morphsci Quote
Craig Sawyers Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) I pretty much gave up and went back to vinyl - phono rather than pono Edited February 1, 2015 by Craig Sawyers Quote
CarlSeibert Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 The guy on Yahoo! seems like a reasonable human being. That he actually got results in his blind test is interesting. And contradictory to his very reasonable assumption that that it's had to hear the difference between lightly compressed material and uncompressed material. And to his also reasonable argument that remasters should sound better and that should swamp the difference in the files. Most such exercises just return null and the high priests tell us that null isn't really null if you truly believe. (My doctor lately seems to enjoy laughing at the stupidity of the results of blind and meta drug studies, which is a little concerning, such drugs are qualified with such tests in the first place.) Could maybe the choice of transducers have dictated Yahoo! Guy's results? Like maybe there was less brightness with the phone? And then there's dumb luck. Or the burning desire to debunk anything that can be debunked for the clicks. "Yeah, it works, but it's not 'disruptive' " isn't the sexiest steely line ever. Quote
grawk Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 I just don't think the success or failure will be determined by whether it's verifiably better. I also don't know how many devices have to sell to make it worthwhile. Either way, I'm not the market. But if Pogues article is the death nail then I've misjudged him. Quote
Grahame Posted February 3, 2015 Report Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) bit of an ars review.http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/pono-player-review-a-tall-refreshing-drink-of-snake-oil/ Edited February 3, 2015 by Grahame Quote
Grahame Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 "• Support is slow and questionable" http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/portable-audio/portable-audio/pono-music-player-review/all-pages.html but maybe the HiFi-Skÿn is the answer Quote
skullguise Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 While I like the general idea of the HiFi Skyn, I dislike the idea of something custom made for a phone that may be replaced much sooner than the amp/DAC. Quote
Grahame Posted March 7, 2015 Report Posted March 7, 2015 http://www.mcelhearn.com/pono-music-for-your-pets/ 2 Quote
blessingx Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 “Fuck Neil Young,” he snapped, “and fuck his records."http://m.fastcompany.com/3043685/this-is-what-happened-when-neil-young-tried-to-make-peace-with-steve-jobs 1 Quote
Grahame Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) Meanwhile Pono Reveals PonoRevealer https://www.ponomusic.com/ccrz__CCPage?oId=a201500000BtIph&pageKey=product&type=Update Meanwhile testing reveals, all is not what it would seem Fig.3 Pono PonoPlayer, frequency response at –12dBFS into 100k ohms with data sampled at: 44.1kHz (left channel cyan, right magenta), 96kHz (left green, right gray), 192kHz (left blue, right red) (0.5dB/vertical div.). http://www.stereophile.com/content/pono-ponoplayer-portable-music-player-measurements Edited May 14, 2015 by Grahame Quote
Knuckledragger Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 WRT that form factor: Nice waveforms, though: Quote
blessingx Posted July 15, 2015 Report Posted July 15, 2015 Neil Young pulls his music from streaming services. Says quality is worse than 8-tracks, AM radio, wax cylinders, etc. 2 Quote
TMoney Posted July 16, 2015 Report Posted July 16, 2015 Man, Neil really needs to shit-can his business manager. Quote
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