purk Posted January 14, 2015 Report Posted January 14, 2015 You ponied up for the Pono but did not give it a ride? No soup for you! Justin is trying to be royal to his Astell & Kern lineup.
Hopstretch Posted January 14, 2015 Report Posted January 14, 2015 Justin is trying to be royal to his Astell & Kern lineup. That's lacist!
Grahame Posted January 14, 2015 Report Posted January 14, 2015 Gizmo aren't drinking the Kool-Aid http://gizmodo.com/dont-buy-what-neil-young-is-selling-1678446860 Audiostream stays thirsty http://www.audiostream.com/content/gizmodos-garbage-dump-pono
Leonardo Drummond Posted January 14, 2015 Report Posted January 14, 2015 Gizmo aren't drinking the Kool-Aid http://gizmodo.com/dont-buy-what-neil-young-is-selling-1678446860 Audiostream stays thirsty http://www.audiostream.com/content/gizmodos-garbage-dump-pono What is you guys' stance on high-res audio?
Grahame Posted January 14, 2015 Report Posted January 14, 2015 What is you guys' stance on high-res audio? Why does "you guys'", and "high-res" make me think of a gangster protection racket?
Tyll Hertsens Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 My take is hi-res is marginally better on hi-fidelity systems. I do sense an increased sense of ease in the experience. But re-mastering is WAY more important. If "hi-rez" can be sold to the public with the bullshit numbers argument and we get MQA hi-res streaming available on premium services at $20-$30/month...I'm fine with that... ...as long as we're also getting re-mastered music that sounds like it was supposed to. As an aside, I did chat with a number of folks at CES that were aware of pretty significant efforts at the labels to do just that. 2
purk Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 My take is hi-res is marginally better on hi-fidelity systems. I do sense an increased sense of ease in the experience. But re-mastering is WAY more important. If "hi-rez" can be sold to the public with the bullshit numbers argument and we get MQA hi-res streaming available on premium services at $20-$30/month...I'm fine with that... ...as long as we're also getting re-mastered music that sounds like it was supposed to. As an aside, I did chat with a number of folks at CES that were aware of pretty significant efforts at the labels to do just that. Just like you Tyll...I think most of it is due to much better mastering and one will need a resolving enough system to different standard redbook & hi-rez system apart. I wish every redbook album can sound just as good as Eva Cassidy - Live at Blues Alley album. 1
Torpedo Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 I got a Pono thing when the kickstarter opened. Got one of the Herbie Hancock artist series which included an additional SDHC 64GB card with a couple of his albums in hi-res. It arrived a few weeks ago directly from China. I've loaded it with a lot of normal 16/44 FLAC albums and some hi-res 24/96 (mostly vinyl rips) too. The thing sounds pretty good, the headphone out is more than decent and drives quite well the ESW10jpn which I use more frequently when travelling or on call. The line out feeding the "small" speakers system is good too. I don't regret the purchase.
purk Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 I got a Pono thing when the kickstarter opened. Got one of the Herbie Hancock artist series which included an additional SDHC 64GB card with a couple of his albums in hi-res. It arrived a few weeks ago directly from China. I've loaded it with a lot of normal 16/44 FLAC albums and some hi-res 24/96 (mostly vinyl rips) too. The thing sounds pretty good, the headphone out is more than decent and drives quite well the ESW10jpn which I use more frequently when travelling or on call. The line out feeding the "small" speakers system is good too. I don't regret the purchase. What's the headphone out rating on the Pono? I'm a Sony guy so I'm using my tiny NWZ-A17 & ZX1 for hi-rez portable playback. I also have the PHA3 that can act as a balanced DAC/Amp connected digitally with A17 & ZX1.
Icarium Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 Purk which mastering/release was is the best sounding for the Eva Cassidy album.. the blix street?
purk Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 Hey Dan...I need to check on my disc and I'll get back with you. Hope your T2 build is going well.
Icarium Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 Haha it's not started. No builder and I'm not sure I have the funds to source the rest of the parts currently. Just trying to slowly stock up in spades for the one day. Thanks for checking! Hope things are well. Im sure your system is pretty stellar these days. I barely listen to what I have :/
Torpedo Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 What's the headphone out rating on the Pono? I'm a Sony guy so I'm using my tiny NWZ-A17 & ZX1 for hi-rez portable playback. I also have the PHA3 that can act as a balanced DAC/Amp connected digitally with A17 & ZX1. I don't think I can rate it compared to the stuff you own. I don't have/ have listened to any of those devices. All I can say is that I like it at the same level I like the iTouch g3 (large 30 pins output) feeding the PicoSlim to drive the ESW10. With the X10 sounds great too. I loaned my HD600 to a friend, they're coming back in a few days, then I'll be able to get a better scope on its headphone output.
Leonardo Drummond Posted January 15, 2015 Report Posted January 15, 2015 Thanks, guys! Yep, I'm aware that recording and mixing quality is everything, but I wanted to know what you thought about high-res anyway! Grahame, lol! I actually thought of a different way to ask it, but couldn't find one, not being a native speaker and all
bhjazz Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 This implies that there is nothing higher than 24/192. (Oh wait, that's marketing. That's what it's supposed to do.) So DSD is probably a lie, then. Ok. the graph doesn't lie!
justin Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 they could just offer us better masters in a 16/44.1 and we can keep using our current hardware. i am reminded of the South Park episode "The Entity" "you mean we can get the better masters without putting these levers in our ass and mouth?"
Salt Peanuts Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 What Justin said. When I had hi-res capable system, the only reason I bought hi-res materials were when they supposedly used better masters.
Grahame Posted January 18, 2015 Report Posted January 18, 2015 Pono, or Placebo?http://www.pcworld.com/article/2871956/neil-youngs-pono-a-ghost-in-the-music-machine.html
Wmcmanus Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Posted January 19, 2015 Well, pretty much everything is placebo for those of us in the 50 and over crowd. 1
justin Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 it looks like the Exploding Kittens card game is going to quickly surpass Pono's fundraising, with up to 2.5 million on the 2nd day.
MoonShine Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 Well, pretty much everything is placebo for those of us in the 50 and over crowd. Truth.
Grahame Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 Oops! Mr. Young, from the perspective of many who actually care about sound quality, you are selling shit masterings in massively oversized boxes, wrapped up in shiny paper with an elaborate bow on top, while effusing comforting hot air tinged with perfume. http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2015/01/last-words-on-pono-mastering-analysis.html 1
RudeWolf Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 Cool, more music, less silence. Imagine buying a pack of potato chips with no air and more chips inside - win win.
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