morphsci Posted December 15, 2011 Report Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) Well my experience with Yama's is nonexistent. I tried contacting them three different times for three different issues by email with absolutely no response. None of them were earth shatteringly important so I did not try any other means of contact. This was I believe between about 2006 and 2008. Edited December 15, 2011 by morphsci
spritzer Posted December 15, 2011 Report Posted December 15, 2011 With Yama's it's always the same things, they never pick up the phone, even when dealers are trying to order something, they are overpriced to say the least and the repair service is shockingly bad, One amp I saw was as if they didn't even bother to find similar parts, just put anything in there and shipped it out still not working properly.
Clarkmc2 Posted December 15, 2011 Report Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) So many dealers have dropped them. Galen Carol, the dealer I purchased my latest Stax gear from, had to tell me that Yama's had taken his money, promised delivery, and then stiffed him for months. They kept his money and wouldn't respond to inquiries. The product finally arrived and Galen promptly alerted me. I paid him and he shipped it immediately. Next time I checked, he had dropped Stax from his offerings. Edited December 15, 2011 by Clarkmc2
Tyll Hertsens Posted December 17, 2011 Report Posted December 17, 2011 Cool. Yesterday morning was interesting. I talked to Todd, Jack Woo, and Tats from Yama. Not going to spoil the article, but it was enlightening. I've got a couple questions I could use help with, if you guys don't mind: Over the last 6 years, has the price of Stax product from US retailers gone down? Evidently, grey market Stax product has been a problems. Can any of you point to a store in Japan that might be selling product to US addresses? Similarly, anyone have any links to stores in Japan Selling Stax that displays prices? I need to see the price of Stax in Japan. I need a few links to stores in Europe and Far East (other than Japan) on-line stores that sell Stax, I'm trying to get a grip on pricing around the world. Any help greatly appreciated.
Spychedelic Whale Posted December 17, 2011 Report Posted December 17, 2011 Are you only interested in on-line stores prices ? In my country most stores don't show their prices or don't have the stax products in the list but they sell them by contacting the Stax Dealer which is friend with most of the audio community and brings the stuff to the store by scheduling.
Tyll Hertsens Posted December 17, 2011 Report Posted December 17, 2011 On-line or brick and mortar is fine. I just need to get an idea of what Stax is selling for around the world. You're right though, it's pretty hard to find them on-line in some paces.
complin Posted December 17, 2011 Report Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) Cool. Yesterday morning was interesting. I talked to Todd, Jack Woo, and Tats from Yama. Not going to spoil the article, but it was enlightening. I've got a couple questions I could use help with, if you guys don't mind: Over the last 6 years, has the price of Stax product from US retailers gone down? Evidently, grey market Stax product has been a problems. Can any of you point to a store in Japan that might be selling product to US addresses? Similarly, anyone have any links to stores in Japan Selling Stax that displays prices? I need to see the price of Stax in Japan. I need a few links to stores in Europe and Far East (other than Japan) on-line stores that sell Stax, I'm trying to get a grip on pricing around the world. Any help greatly appreciated. Name: Acoustica City: Chester Tel: 01244 344227 www.acoustica.co.uk Name: Analogue Seduction City: Peterborough Tel: 01733 344768 www.analogueseduction.net Name: Audio Destination City: Tiverton Tel: 01884 243584 www.audiodestination.co.uk Name: Audio Images City: Lowestoft Tel: 01502 582853 www.audioimages-hifi.com Name: Cheshire Audio City: Crewe Tel: 01270 589734 www.cheshireaudio.co.uk Name: Custom cable City: New Mailden Tel: 0208 942 9124 www.custom-cable.co.uk Name: Deco Audio City: Aylesbury Tel: 01296 422224 www.decoaudio.com Name: Doug Brady Hi Fi City: Warrington Tel: 01925 828009 www.dougbradyhifi.com Name: Hi Fi Headphones City: Lancing Tel: Phone 01903 768910 www.hifiheadphones.co.uk Name: High End Cable City: Spalding Tel: 01775 761880 www.highendcable.co.uk Name: Infidelity City: Kingston Upon Thames Tel: 0208 943 3530 www.infidelity.co.uk Name: Moorgate Acoustics City: Sheffield Tel: 0114 275 6048 www.moorgate.demon.co.uk Name: Signals UK Ltd City: Ipswich Tel: 01473 655171 www.signals.uk.com Name: Sound Organisation City: York Tel: 01904 627108 www.soundorg.co.uk Name: Unilet Sound and Vision City: New Malden Tel: 0208 942 9567 www.unilet.net Name: Walrus Systems City: London Tel: 0207 724 7224 www.walrus.co.uk List of Stax dealers for the UK The main dealer in the UK SimplyStax (akna StereoNow) stopped selling Stax due to problems with grey imports, reliability issues and with sites such as eBay new and secondhand Stax could easily be obtained from the US, Japan and across Europe. However the retail prices charged and secondhand prices in Germany seem to much higher now than in the UK. Prices in the UK have risen considerably over the past few years but I think this is mostly to do with the exchange rates as the Yen has appreciated with most currencies and the value of the pound has sunk about 20% so even the entry level Stax system equates to $1160. Edited December 17, 2011 by complin
Spychedelic Whale Posted December 17, 2011 Report Posted December 17, 2011 I only have some prices quoted by the dealer on some emails: Stax SR-009+SRM-007tII €5.750 Special santa promotion. 2050II Basic system II € 748,00 3050II Classic system € 1.228,00 4040II Signature system € 1.835,00 006 Limited +404 signature € 3.125,00 007 II €2200 This for Portugal.
Tyll Hertsens Posted December 17, 2011 Report Posted December 17, 2011 I only have some prices quoted by the dealer on some emails: Stax SR-009+SRM-007tII €5.750 Special santa promotion. 2050II Basic system II € 748,00 3050II Classic system € 1.228,00 4040II Signature system € 1.835,00 006 Limited +404 signature € 3.125,00 007 II €2200 This for Portugal. Sweet! Thanks mate.
wink Posted December 17, 2011 Report Posted December 17, 2011 Len Wallis Audio Australia http://lenwallisaudio.com/products/accessories/headphones Stax - SR507/SRM600 Better than speakers. Stax have released a new Earspeaker – the SR507, and driver unit – the SRM-600 Limited $3,999 the pair. Was $4,499 Stax - SRS-4040II Electrostatic Earspeakers The famous valve amp drive unit combined with SR404 headset RRP $3,999 Stax - SRS-3050II Electrostatic "Earspeakers" With Solid-state amplifier RRP $2,699 Stax - SRS-2050II Electrostatic "Earspeakers" Full size & Affordable RRP $1,699
Tachikoma Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) And these people wonder why the grey market is so much more attractive. http://www.pricejapan.com/front/e_result_goods.php?in_category=&in_maker=25 Japanese store that ships overseas, not that they really need to with the number of deputy services available. Edited December 18, 2011 by Tachikoma
Torpedo Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 I've just e-mailed the local distributor to get some price quotes for you.
Tyll Hertsens Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) Someone told me that the Japan domestic market sold 20X more than the US market. One wonders how many of the Japan domestic market units actually went elsewhere in the world? Edited December 18, 2011 by Tyll Hertsens
wink Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 Addicted to Audio Australia Stax SR-007 MK 2 Omega Reference Electrostatic Earspeakers $4,199.00 Stax SR-009 Reference Electrostatic Earspeakers $6,999.00 Stax SR-307 Electrostatic Earspeakers $749.00 Stax SR-407 Electrostatic Earspeakers $949.00 Stax SR-507 Electrostatic Earspeakers $1,599.00
anetode Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 There are of course several japanese shops that sell stax products on eBay. I've recently purchased a Stax 009 from joynetcafe for just under 5k. They do move a fair amount of Stax products and claim to be an officially sanctioned dealer.
chinsettawong Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 Here is a link to a Stax distributor in Thailand. The conversion rate of Thai Baht to US$ is around 30:1. http://www.jetliveaudio.com/index.php?mo=29&keyword=Stax
Currawong Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 Kuboten.com has a link that auto-translates from Rakuten (new) or Yahoo Auctions. Price Japan are about right for Japanese prices though, though retail is obviously higher. I couldn't find prices from Yodobashi online, unfortunately. Interesting, as I contacted Yamasinc/Accutech recently and couldn't have asked for a more rapid response to a part availability. It was despatched immediately also. They also did the modification of the Sigma to Sigma/404 rapidly and carefully. No complaints here. Maybe they've realised they can no longer be slack now that it will be readily easy to complain to the new owners about their bad history
Torpedo Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 Someone told me that the Japan domestic market sold 20X more than the US market. One wonders how many of the Japan domestic market units actually went elsewhere in the world? Without any data to back it up--so completely a wild guess-- I'd say than more than 2/3rds go outside. The prices international distributors charge are ridiculous compared to prices in Japan. BTW, it seems that nobody mentioned Audiocubes as seller in Japan shipping outside.
complin Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 Without any data to back it up--so completely a wild guess-- I'd say than more than 2/3rds go outside. The prices international distributors charge are ridiculous compared to prices in Japan. BTW, it seems that nobody mentioned Audiocubes as seller in Japan shipping outside. Yes they are good for spares and accessories like new pads, arc assemblies, extension cables etc. If you buy them locally they can be stupid prices. Often its cheaper to buy a secondhand replacement set than the spares to repair your headphone.
Tyll Hertsens Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 Thanks guys! I think I've got what I need. Article will post sometime Monday.
spritzer Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 Someone told me that the Japan domestic market sold 20X more than the US market. One wonders how many of the Japan domestic market units actually went elsewhere in the world? It's enough of a "problem" for Stax to take drastic measures to combat it. Special model numbers for Japan and the Export markets (i.e. the A and II models) and the amps have the 117V windings cut to make conversion tougher.
Torpedo Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 IMHO instead of fucking the consumers, they'd need to protect them by limiting the silly margins their distributors want to charge.
Spychedelic Whale Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) My O2 are definitely from Japan, cardboard in Japanese and the box says fujiya-avic which is a store in japan I believe. Yes the prices are ridiculous compared... I'm starting to feel ashamed each time I visit the dealer because, I never buy anything and he is starting to give weird looks but at those prices he will never see me puling my wallet Edited December 18, 2011 by Spychedelic Whale
ktm Posted December 18, 2011 Report Posted December 18, 2011 IMHO instead of fucking the consumers, they'd need to protect them by limiting the silly margins their distributors want to charge. Maybe it's time for the new management to offer Web-direct. Given the fact that they completely gutted out North America's dealers in the last two years, this would be a good time to offer this for at least this region.
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