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http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20110831105634716&query=lion+usb I'm doing this right now to get my copy of Lion for my rMBP. Will post if it works. I didn't want to upgrade to ML until I knew I had a working copy of the Lion installer for it.

That's why we bought 3 new Macbook pro, and are planning to get an iMac once they are refreshed. We decided to move on, but we expect/hope to get at least 4 years out of these. We each have our own Mac, but for the occasional need to use the closest one we put a separate account on each Mac so none of us would have to share accounts on our Mac.

I'd be interested in figuring this out too (fetch copy of Lion installer). I spent weeks trying to download a working copy of Lion for the post 6/11 Macs, but the 4.11 GB file is always corrupted. I did manage to get the 4.18 GB dmg installer for the older Macs.

Multiple users logged in used to be very typical with the iMac in our kitchen. I'd be logged in and running iTunes and several media servers, and wife comes home and logs in to do her stuff, without logging me out (to avoid disconnecting people using the media being served). Or the kids come home from school and they briefly they log into the iMac or my son's MacBook in the family room to check Facebook or homework assignments. It happens all the time. Limited RAM is what made this unworkable with Lion, a point I was making to Brian. They ran just fine with Snow Leopard, and more RAM fixed it with Lion. But what happens when you can't physically add more RAM? In the case of the Macs limited to 3GB you can't do anything. Well, in a MacBook Air or Retina you'll be in the same spot In just a few years if you don't max it when you buy it. So, to morphsci, I was just responding to Brian when he asked about whether maxing out the RAM was really making the rMBP future proof or not. I offered that having maxed RAM that can't be upgraded is sometimes the reason why a machine can't support a future OS, and sometimes it's planned obsolescence where Apple won't support older hardware like certain video cards. It's not always because the computer is too slow, too old, or failing. Staying with the old Mac OS won't be as big of an issue as having an iPad that won't run iOS 6, because it will be a big pain in the ass when software that you already own stops supporting iOS 5. I remember being jailbroken on iOS 4 when iOS 5 came out, and many apps started breaking under iOS 4. No more simply clicking "update all" if all your devices can't run iOS 6, or else you have to dig all the "old" apps out of the trash after an update, and save them in case you want to re-install them later. So, if I can't install ML and can't afford a new Mac I'd suck it up and use Lion. But it would be nice if the core of OS X ML was available for older Macs, maybe minus a few features. There's nothing we can do about hardware RAM limits though.

I agree, I bought cables from heels-6 a couple of times. Very happy with them.

I've always said the Hd800 were like a "dynamic HE-60", but that I still preferred the HE-60. But the HD800 via Luxman P-1u or EC ZDT are pretty darn good, and my favorite dynamic.

Scrolling with the trackpad is very fast and smooth in things like Safari and Word, a bit faster than holding the down key for long periods. I'm not seeing any hiccoughs while downloading three iTunes movies and deleting a 70gb iPhoto library from my NAS at the same time as scrolling. I'm basing "Future Proof" on the fact that older Mac computers with gobs of RAM at the time They were released often have too little RAM after just 3-4 years of OS X upgrades. Our "late 2006" 15" MacBook Pro and iMac came with 1GB RAM but were limited to 3GB max. 3GB was barely enough for Lion, and almost unusable with two users logged in at the same time and running background tasks like music servers and such. With Snow Leopard we could run multiple apps under multiple users with 3GB, ripping DVD's in the background and running iTunes and Twonky server in the background. With Lion forget it. What will it be like with OS X 10.10 Honey Badger? Apple seems to think that some older Macs should be retired a bit sooner than many of us think they should, so they build an OS that excludes many older Macs, based either by not supporting certain old hardware components or having an OS that wont work within the Mac's RAM limits. Some people bought Macs only 4 years ago and can't use them with ML now. We had 4 Macs that can't accept ML now.. Our late 2007 MacBooks were just fine with Snow Leopard, which we bought in 2008, and 2GB was plenty with SL, and once there was enough RAM they ran great with Lion. Yet these Macs are not supported with Mountain Lion now due to older video cards, despite 64 bit CPU processors. Planned obsolescence in action. They could run fine for years with 6Gb if we stuck with an older OS, but apple has made it such that if we want to take advantage of the new OS we have to upgrade the hardware before it's time. True, there is no way to "future proof" against something like this, but increasing RAM demands by apps and OS will continue for the foreseeable future. What kind of demands will future operating systems demand on the hardware? If 4-8 GB is just enough now (ESP if using apps like Amarra), imagine how much we'll need in just a few years. I figure in 3-4 years the 8GB will barely cut it, and you won't be able to upgrade the RAM so performance will suffer. If you plan to replace your Mac every 3 years when AppleCare runs out then it's probably a non-issue, but we tend to keep our Macs for 4-5 years.

Thanks for the info. I re-applied for the codes and got them right away.

When I last used print n share i thought it still required a computer to be turned on. I see that's changed. It see's my wireless HP printer, in addition to the printers attached to my iMac. That's nice to know.

Seriously?

I filled out the online forms Wednesday to get our free ML download for the 3 MacBook pros that we bought after 6/11, and haven't gotten the codes via email to download yet. Anyone know how long it should have taken?

Try apple store for air-print compatible printers - no Mac with Printopia needed, for as little as $99 for an Epson. http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipad/ipad_accessories/printers

This rMbP is definitely pretty speedy, and the screen is much easier for me to read. So I don't need to use reading glasses for now, which makes me very happy. I special ordered the 16/768 version, to be more future proof. The 23 day way was worth it.

I'm pretty sure it was a T7

Happy Birthday!

Happy Birthday

Wait for it...

My rMBP arrived today, but I was out of town and I missed picking it up from my UPS Store box before they closed by 15 minutes. Sad... We still need iMacs to update so my wife can get one.

I seem to recall someone telling me that water vapor can condense in gas pipes. True?

Interesting article about using hijacked Macs at Apple store for art project. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/07/people-staring-at-computers/all/

Our cat is on the special KD cat food too, with the same symptoms - cant concentrate their urine. Our cat's blood urea nitrogen was normal but the creatinine level was a little high.

It would be nice if Homeowner's insurance would cover something like this.

My rMBP might be here next week. Ordered it back on 7/1/12, so we'll see.

Took a bike ride with my son and daughter, grabbed a bite to eat, and can barely move now. If I hadn't lost 50 lbs already I'd be dead instead.