n_maher

I'm with you on this 100%. This was my first impression of them in NYC listening to the balanced pair and once again last night when switching back and forth between the two AT's I was trying to use the volume as an EQ for the not-quite-right-to-my-ears W5k presentation. Oh well, someone will get a hell of a deal on these.

At least you used orange when you called me a douche, thanks for that. FIFY Being business partners has really hampered our relationship. I keeed, I keeed, I was fired from Rockhopper for my lack of Penguin style.

So I had a chance to listen to some W10VTG's last night courtesy of a very generous loan from JB. I spent over an hour at first just listening to the VTGs to get a sense for them. Very polite sounding, easy to listen to, no glaring faults. Also, they fit a lot better than the W5ks even though I didn't think that I was having fit issues with the W5s. They just seemed to settle better on my head, kind of hard to articulate really. After getting to know them a bit I decided that I'd do a little back and forth between the VTGs and the W5ks. I haven't been able to confirm but the VTG's seem to be a bit harder to drive so I was constantly making volume adjustments when switching back and forth. No effort was made to precisely volume match for this round of experimentation. Regardless the back and forth did little but confirm my position that the W5ks probably aren't a headphone for me. Comparing the two I did prefer the top end of the W's, it felt more open with better instrument separation. But the overall the VTGs simply owner the W's with far better mids and lows. If I had to pick one, today, I'd go for the VTGs. More than anything what I think I'm getting out of this experimentation is that I think I'm done with dynamic headphones w/ the HF-1s and HD650s. They offer good variety for pretty short money. Hell the combination of the 2 including the Zu cable cost me less than the W5ks. So if I'm going to spend money on anything I'm thinking that I'll either give stats a try or just leave well enough alone. And before someone comes in and tells me that I need to try x or y to get the W5ks to sound right, no, I don't. I've never found an amp, source, cable or otherwise to fundamentally change the way a headphone sounds and fundamentally I have issues with the W5ks.

There's also the possibility that it outputs a higher RMS V. My Wadia can be configured for up to 4V or something like that.

Zach, You might give some serious thought to just buying a pair of MS-Pros.

Nah, we're just tired and sleepy right now.

Shut up you!

Remote stepper FTW!

I'm pretty natejean's cables can handle a couple of 1/2M cables without too much trouble. And somehow they'll cost less than the $80 that KAB wants for cables with the Pro-fi connectors.

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Any recommendations?

I may have already been talking to Mike about something else and mentioned that he should have a chat with you. So now I can waste both of your times.

Jack, you should just ask Mike about them. He's not the kind of guy who's going to bullshit you just to make a sale.

I'd be curious to hear more about their spec since the stated frequency response is 50Hz ? 18K. That's a little rolled off in the high end (assuming we're talking -3db specs) but pretty decent low end for a single 8" driver.

I make all of my headphone cables 10' long and always keep a 10' extension handy. Provided that the cable used is reasonably flexible a little extra length is rarely an issue.

Kinda?

They seem to fit my head fine as well. I get a uniform seal around my ear and no amount of poking or proding at the cups makes anything any better.

They're cheaper than the CTFAs so what do you have to lose?

I freely admit that I do not have the time or patience to try and listen for the differences in connectors. That's beyond my personal threshold of madness.

I guess I'm confused as to how the remote soundcard would be helpful unless you're setting up playlists and then going into the other room. Or would you use a laptop to take over the host computer (or something like that) so that the lappy was serving the same function as the Squeezebox? To me the whole point of the SB is to get me away from the host yet still allow me to easily browse the file library.

As far as cable-mount RCA's go, Pro-fi's are the ticket for me. Chassis mount I'm with Pars, CTFA or I use the "Tiffany Style" from Partsconnexion.com.

I learned it by watching you, all right?

Ahh, I never use the web interface. I'm always just at the SB end and never on the host computer.

The mental imagery associated with this was not pleasant. Think America Pie and you'll be near the gutter my mind was in...

I treat slimserver much like I treat the Zune software. It's a necessary means to an end. Once you get your library loaded (which can be a bit of a pain) there's just no beating the Squeezebox interface. I haven't experience problems with speed or bugginess really, what exactly was happening?