morphsci

FTFY

Happy Birthday to the queen

No need to feel bad he actually made some valid points before the douche zombie took over his persona.

I guess linux makes you arrogant and naive Your understanding of how "systems" operate is trully superficial. You are assuming the real world, i.e. any real computer, fits the model of how it should work, perfectly, with no variation. I certainly hope you are not a systems engineer. I.e. in your example what affects the post office? It is a system, you think to linearly, think interactions man interactions.

QFT and my experience also.

Yeah, the math statement bothered me but I chalked it up to making it suitable for popular science. I read it as their mathematical model may not actually be the optimum model and ours is.

See now there is the key, the bit timing and the timing may also be affected by whatever else is being done by the processors. Also saying it is hardware and not software is way too simplistic as it is software AND hardware together not either or. The software may be integral in making sure the hardware gets enough resources to operate properly. So, especially for music, Bits are Bits unless they arrive at the wrong time and then they are other bits plus random variation ... now whether this is audible or not? I have no fucking idea as there are real biological thresholds plus variation about that mean.

Yep it is pretty obvious when you listen to it that they are doing something and my guess it has to do with timing or more precisely, timing tolerances. I say this based upon my experience back in my early TT days (early mid 70s). I never could find a TT that sounded right to me until I listened to a DD table. Turns out I was and am hypersensitive to speed variations and it was subtly annoying me. I could be ( and probably am totally) wrong but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Oh and it doesn't bother me that they are being obscure about exactly what they are doing because, as you said, if they told us, then anyone else could also do it.

Excellent. Once there is ALAC support I think I will download the demo and unless it sounds significantly worse on my office system than it did at DanJam, I'll buy the mini version. Then the slippery slope of Amarra compatible hardware, etc. ....

Well to be fair we do not really "know" what core audio is doing either, that is unless you have seen the actual code. I have heard Amarra and there is a difference to my ears. Enough so that I am willing to suspend my dongle hatred long enough to at least check out the demo in my system. Oh, and I am a PC person who also owns a couple of MACs.

If you buy the Amarra Mini version and later want to go with the full blown dealy, can you upgrade?

x krmathis+1

Non_sequitur

I'd get a micro line drive like THIS or THIS. The first one is a little high so I would offer less and see what shakes out. They are very good little pres and you can be like stretch.

Because it is easy to muck it up when you write your own drivers, plus your drivers should not muck up anything else, plus ......

OOO.... WA22 vs. BA ..... The battle will be epic.

Mmmm ... oven controlled crystal oscillator ... color me interested.

Oh, I realize it will not be trivial, which is why I am looking around for some independent entity with an AP SYS-2722. The best case scenario would allow multiple samples per unit and multiple individual units per model to assess both measurement variation as well as unit-to-unit variation. You know, kinda scientific-like. Oh, and by doing this I am making no statement as to whether I consider jitter to be audibly significant or not.

I am seriously considering setting something like this up at CanJam'10. I think setting it up to measure jitter will be an "enlightening" experience for some people. I also want to try to preemptively remove the excuses and thus am looking to not have any direct vendor involvement. Stay tuned ...

OK, someone not a vendor, for obvious reasons.

If you know anybody with a SYS-2720 or SYS-2722, have them give me a call and we'll talk.

So it seems that being a shill is the new FOTM, NTTAWWT.

Persactly!

It sounded pretty good out of the BA at CanJam.