grawk

black and blue baybee

Small and bored?

charcoal broiled ny strip, extra rare steamed green beans

balls isn't profane, it's just your obsession

spicy italian cold cuts w/ swiss

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If I say so myself, it's pretty good. I love cajun food.

Etouffe. From that bacon fat based roux from yesterday, and fresh local off the boat 8 count shrimps.

What we have going on here is an asshat with strawman arguments. Get rid of one, he puts up another.

Sure, there will be 4 pins in the 1 connector now The advantage to 4pin xlr isn't the sound, it's the convenience of not having 2 heavy connectors on the end of the cable.

Yup, mr literal, you're right. I think if people who can't afford insurance are covered, that's pretty universal. If people who are employed gainfully don't choose to get insurance, that's their own choice, and they get to live with that choice.

I'm not really a fan of #9. Fruit and beer shouldn't be combined

I dunno, but I know that my friend, who was not broke, was covered for full cancer treatment up until his death. Maybe the coverage for illegal immigrants and higher income people is the difference? Folks like non-union actors, and other people making decent wages but who don't have health insurance by choice?

Good coverage. I was talking about major medical, which covers only >$5000

First, let's define who we're talking about without health care: The lower middle class, and entrepreneurs. The poor have insurance through medicaid. The vast majority have coverage through work. Self employed people sometimes choose to go without, and the people just above the poverty line are often stuck without insurance. But even for them it's a choice. If you have no insurance, and you get cancer, you'll go bankrupt. But then you'll have coverage. It sucks for those people it happens to. I think our safety net could use some tweaking, it's not a perfect system. But america wasn't founded as a place for people to go to have all their needs taken care of. It was founded on the idea that we should be free to succeed or fail based on our own abilities. You can choose to spend your money on cable tv, or you can choose to spend it on major medical coverage. Because that's what major medical costs, about $50 a month (assuming no pre-existing conditions).

They may be tweaking their system, but california has had universal health care for at least 4 years. I had a good friend who benefitted from it.

Not only is it not legal in california, but california has health care coverage for everyone. So it's an example of how universal health care isn't the panacea some people seem to think it is.

I'd rather live in a world where shit happens, but we get more choices...

Plus St Joes in memphis and md anderson in houston...

Easy - immigration

Reality is, the hospitals in both countries handle typical cases well. If they didn't, things would be seriously fucked up. The differences come when you need extreme care. In canada, you basically don't get it. In the US, you only get it if you can afford it. The benefit to state based coverage instead of federal is that you have the option of living in a different state if the one you're in doesn't suit you. As to the cost, I'd rather pay specific costs for specific benefits than give 60% of my salary for the government to spend as it sees fit.

All of this doesn't even begin to cover the #1 drawback to living in canada: canadians.

Nice straw man. The "evil insurance company can drop you" argument. It may happen, but it's not "common".

In soviet canada, hospital pays you. Seriously tho, in the US, if you're sick, you can go to any hospital, and you're guaranteed treatment. And medical bills can't impact your credit standing. That said, it's a good thing that people are expected to pay for the services they receive. I think we need to go more towards MSAs and away from traditional coverage anyway. Make medicine more, rather than less, competitive.

Canadian free health care is worth what you pay for it. I'm ok with living in a society where you're responsible for your own well being. I can see why you're glad someone else looks after you... As to the cost, even with relatively high medical costs over the last couple of years while we were living in alaska, I still paid significantly less for medical care (including the price of my insurance) than it'd cost me in additional taxes to live in canada. Then factor in the reduced wages in canada and we can just leave it as I am not looking to emigrate.