So in other words, by your definition, anything made by an individual can't be high end, regardless of how it looks or how it performs. Got it. You're a blowhard windbag. The rest of us will continue to discuss things using definitions we prefer. Because in the end, sound is what matters. Not what you want to brag to your friends about. Because honestly, I don't tell people what I spend on audio gear, not because they won't appreciate it, but because my finances are my business. And everyone who's ever listened to my gear, be it the ugly ass mpx3 toaster I used to have (commercial product, ugly ass, high end), or the great looking and sounding tooleaudio balanced mosfet amplifier (built by colin, so effectively DIY, m3, certainly noncommercial, high end), or my veda audio dynahi...and with my hp1s, rs1s, hhf1s (diyish again), ps3000s (again, diyish), or grado 225s...they've always been nothing less than blown away. Because of how it looks? No, because it sounds better than they'd experienced before. High end in my book is synonymous with "a darn sight better than the typical person will ever experience". And I could care less if any of it ever had a brand name or bling to make other people approve.