The honda pilot is actually pretty comfortable in all 8 seats. The tradeoff between it and the Odyssey was the reduction in cargo volume when all seats were occupied. Luckily, we usually only have 6 in the car, so 2/3 of hte rear seat stays folded down. We mostly now drive 5 passenger vehicles, and only take the pilot when everyone is travelling (generally just on sundays). I no longer believe in the "drive a huge vehicle all the time because once in a while you need it" thing, because it's so inefficient. If I needed the bigger vehicle less than once a month, I'd probably just rent a van the few times I needed it, and otherwise stick with the smaller cars exclusively.