I'm with Nate. I've heard real music played live, I've played in concert band, blah blah blah, and I would hardly describe the HD650 as an "epic fail". Not to be a fanboy, but it just simply doesn't do anything wrong to the point of being a failure, much less an 'epic' one. It recreates music, and it does it with a fairly decent tone to my ears. I know its not the end-all be-all, but 'epic fail' is simply a dramatic over reach.