You should really follow that thread and you will see how much success they have on this product. And like anything else, many on wish to own their upscale gears. I still think it sounds good but not the same level as GS-1 or any Dynalo design good. Sadly, people are such a prisoner of the moment and most newbies probably don't have a clue what a GS-1, (susy)dynalo, (susy)dynahi, M3, and Beta22 are. The lifetime warranty on Carbon also added to the value on the second hand market.