I personally put him ahead of pippen even now. Pippen did not do well in the leadership role when Jordan first retired, whereas rose has really blossomed in the leadership role. While MJ is pretty much rarefied company, I do feel rose has the same tenacity, competitive drive, will to win, and the ability to make others better around you. Unfortunately like MJ in the early years, rose is so gifted the rest of the team seems to simply watch him do his thing rather than get involved.