Agree. After listening to the JH13 out of the Sansa Clip+ for about 10 days during my holiday travels, I sat down today with the home setup (ECD-1 and GS-1) for some time. After many cds I was thinking that maybe I should get rid of this excess clutter (WA5-LE, HD800, HD650, AD2000, ... ). In the end, I realized that I would just end up buying more clutter to fill its space.... but, yeah, they are much better than I imagined any IEM could possibly be and more.