OK, after thinking about what Ari and Job said, I ended up ordering the Tokina 100mm f/2.8 macro from B&H on Sunday, it should be here Thursday. The 100mm lens will give me working distance. Also, I decided not to pay more for Nikon/VR since I figure that most real macro I will be using a tripod. I am not a fan of the extending lens, but I can probably put up with it to save ~$500. I may still end up with a Nikon 60mm for a macro/walkaround, we'll see. I wonder how the new Nikon 40mm macro would work as a close-up + walkaround. Probably not as sharp as the 60mm AF-S. I think I noticed that (taking into account that the lens length on the 40mm is shorter than that of the 60mm) the working distance of the 40mm and 60mm was about the same.